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Re: South Dakota law bans nearly all abortions From: D. Ashley Hill (dahmd@cfl.rr.com) Fri Mar 10 19:55:55 2006 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: Actinomyces" Previous message: Rafael Haciski: "Re: Actinomyces" In reply to: Joanne Bulley, MD: "Re: South Dakota law bans nearly all abortions" Next in thread: Dr Eberhard Lisse: "Re: South Dakota law bans nearly all abortions" I agree it's challenging to have a coherent discussion with most of the people on either side of the abortion issue. It seems that the ultra-religious do not see anything but their beliefs, while the "my choice" crowd refuses to see abortion as anything but a personal choice. There are a lot of laws that negate religiosity (for example, all the strip clubs you see everywhere) and there are a lot of laws that negate the "my choice, 24/7" philosophy. It's illegal for me to strike down my neighbor because he won't keep his dog quiet (my choice, but against the law) and in many states it's illegal to attempt suicide (the ultimate self-choice event). It's fascinating to watch fanatical people argue this issue. Ashley At Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Joanne Bulley, MD wrote: > >There are major distinctions ... the identification of when life starts >is not universally held ... is it conception ... is it with the first >breath ... As we do not have a single definition that all can agree to >there is indeed a world of difference between the choice to end a >pregnancy and convenience killing after birth has occurred. > >I have no problem with someone being anti-abortion but pro capital >punishment (well ... I would like to have the discussion about why they >think capital punishment helps society after a crime however grisly has >been committed) ... but they can indeed have those two opinions -- just >don't come to me and act holier-than-thou because they are anti-abortion >while I am pro-abortion as an option that has to be left to teh >individual and her conscience / faith / philosophiy. > >The attitude of folks who I have been involved with who cal themselves >"Pro-Life" is pretty uniformly the holier than thou attitude. I find >that hypocritical. > >Joanne > >At Fri, 10 Mar 2006, William D. McIntosh, M.D wrote: >> >>I would have to agree that this is a very politically expedient >>definition, very lawyerly black and white, with none of those messy >>human grey areas. I can only grant your definition if you will grant >>mine (TIC), i.e. that in order for a personal philosophy to be >>consistent with abortion on demand, one must also advocate the killing >>on demand of any inconvenient or non-essential person, such as, but not >>limited to, noisy children, the handicapped, the elderly, lesser races, >>all criminals, unfaithful women, ad infinitum. My personal views on >>abortion are as conflicted as any sentient persons might be, but >>"slippery slope" arguments go both ways. If you are going to tar with a >>broad brush, be prepared for the slop over. >> >>William D McIntosh, MD, FACOG >>Clarksville, TN >> >>- > >-- >Joanne Bulley, MD >Keene, NH, USA > >"Love is indescribable and unconditional. >I could tell you a thousand things that it is not, but not one that it is." >— Duke Ellington, American jazz artist (1899-1974). > -- D. Ashley Hill, MD Associate Director Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology Florida Hospital Family Practice Residency and Loch Haven Ob/Gyn Group Orlando, Florida Next message: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: Actinomyces" Previous message: Rafael Haciski: "Re: Actinomyces" In reply to: Joanne Bulley, MD: "Re: South Dakota law bans nearly all abortions" Next in thread: Dr Eberhard Lisse: "Re: South Dakota law bans nearly all abortions"

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