Re: Weekend thoughts
From: Jamie (ajfields@pine-net.com)
Mon Mar 6 18:29:48 2006
Hadn't considered that perspective. When I've seen it, it is mostly in
the context of giving instructions as if talking to a child. Maybe I'm
reading disrespect b/c there is disrespect. The Spanish speaking
population here is not extremely educated as a rule. Some caregivers
make the mistake of equating education with intelligence.
At Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Efrain Ramirez wrote:
>
>Most of the patients the older they are the greater the smile you get
>from if you treat them as "tu", albeit with respect. "Doña Juantita"
>sounds better to the ears than "Doña Juana"...
>
>Ef
>
>>At Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Jamie wrote:
>>
>>Is this different if turned around-say a resident or nurse addresses an
>>older patient as "tu"? It always feels very disrespectful to me to hear
>>that. I don't generally hear it in reverse, except from age mates with
>>whom I have established some sort of rapport.
>>
>>First names don't bother me, and it can be unsafe in some areas to allow
>>patients to know one's last name. I would not address a patient by
>>first name on first entering the room, however.
>>
>>--
>>Jamie
>>
>>At Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Efrain Ramirez wrote:
>>>
>>>In the Spanish language there are also formal and informal addresses - I
>>>am 60 - I have patients in their 20’s and they address to me as "tu"
>>>instead of the formal "usted" … I don't perceive that as unprofessional
>>>as long as I feel esteem and appreciation – besides I do not force that
>>>type of a relationship - it comes natural or it does not...most are not
>>>my friends but many do care for me...
>>>
>>>I also have long-term relationships – going back some 30 years –
>>>delivering babies whose mothers I delivered many years ago – first name
>>>basis is common in those circumstances –
>>>
>>>Yes – they all can sue me so….?
>>>
>>>Ef
>>>
>>> At Sun, 05 Mar 2006, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>In the German language there are formal and informal addresses, and it
>>>>is a tendency among midwives to invade the patients' privacy by forcing
>>>>the informal address on the patients.
>>>>
>>>>They are not your friends, they are patients (some of you call them
>>>>clients even). Don't forget they may sue you.
>>>>
>>>>And, by the way, hierarchies, you can not tell me that your SHOs call
>>>>your Consultants anything but "Yes, Sir" or "Mr Soandso".
>>>>
>>>>el
>>>>
>>>>on 3/5/06 1:38 AM GA12L@aol.com said the following:
>>>>> In a message dated 04/03/2006 23:03:23 GMT Standard Time, el@lisse.NA
>>>>> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Trust me it is totally unprofessional!
>>>>>
>>>>> Then we'll just have to disagree. I prefer my way and you prefer yours
>>>>> although I can't see why first name terms is unprofessional.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gail
>>>>>
>>>--
>>>“ The greatest obstacle to knowledge is not ignorance,
>>>it is the illusion of knowledge.” Daniel J. Boorstin - Historian
>>>
>>--
>>JFields, RN, BSN
>>
>--
>“ The greatest obstacle to knowledge is not ignorance,
>it is the illusion of knowledge.” Daniel J. Boorstin - Historian
>
--
JFields, RN, BSN
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