Re: Checking cervices at term

From: Efrain Ramirez (eramirezt@coqui.net)
Mon Feb 27 16:47:03 2006


At Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: >
>on 2/27/06 8:27 PM Garry E. Siegel, M.D. said the following:
>> I check because:
>>
>> 1. Many patients want me to/are used to it. If they don't want me to,
>> I don't unless overdue.
>
>Crap!
>
>> 2. Nice to know that they're vertex, although this is not perfect, and
>> yes, midwives, the cervical exam is done in concert with Leopold's.
>
>Nonsense, Ultrasound does exist. And the vertex of Wednesday last week
>in the G4P3 turned out to be a breech today.
>
>> 3. Nice to know what their "baseline" is when the primigravida calls
>> after hours with few contractions. The one who was 3/90% might go to L
>> and D; the long/closed one would be encouraged to wait longer.
>
>Well, my patients go to L&D when they are in active labour.
>
>> I am AMAZED at home many people kind so many reasons NOT to check a
>> cervix. For instance, one of our CNMs saw someone with "a few
>> Braxton-Hicks) at 30 weeks, who had been bleeding intermittently from a
>> polyp. She also had a retroplacental bleed at 15 weeks. Long story
>> short, she delivered a week later. Now, who knows if a cervical exam
>> might have detected anything, but I submit that it MIGHT have helped,
>> and would have been unlikely to have hurt her situation. Again, when in
>> doubt, take a history, review the chart, and do the examination!
>
>I really am amazed at your prowess to diagnose retroplacental bleeds
>with a vaginal examination. And to exclude placenta previa.
>
>el

I have never been sorry for doing a pelvic examination - that's about 33 years of doing them..

Ef

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