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Re: UK Pap rules was Sexual abuse was Spanking babiesFrom: doctorjoe@aol.comMon Feb 27 08:54:16 2006
The point is: Many of those things listed, and many that are not listed, can be asymptomatic and unknown to the patient. It's the old rule of the House of God - If you don't take a temperature, you can't find a fever. If we took your strategy on pelvic exams, then ALL "well" babies should never be examined by the doctor or treated in any way unless some illness was apparent. Your reasoning, as applied narrowly to pelvic exams in under-25 women, can be applied with the same legitimacy to ALL people from birth on. We've already had the discussion of babies not needing suction at birth if they're well. Carry on from there. Of course, we all know where this is going, even if you don't. We don't need doctors and "modern" medical care. We just need to stay at home and take care of ourselves and it'll be fine. Just once in a while, when some disease pops up, we can ride the carriage into town and see the evil doctor. This is not about pelvic examination in a vacuum. It's about modern concepts of medical care and whether they are beneficial or whether they are intrusive. Just for the record, I like to let Nature take her course, BUT, I b'lieve that in many cases intrusive is a GOOD thing. As we've said before, death from pneumonia, meningitis, breast cancer, abruptio placentae, etc. is "natural." God gave us a friggin' brain to be able to occasionally thwart Mother Nature. Otherwise, what good is being at the top of the evolutionary ladder? Joe P. -----Original Message----- From: GA12L@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net> Sent: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:37:36 -0600 Subject: Re: UK Pap rules was Sexual abuse was Spanking babies In a message dated 27/02/2006 15:29:24 GMT Standard Time, RModugno@aol.com writes: Bartholin's cysts/abscesses Lichen sclerosus female circumcision vulvitis, HSV, HPV, vulvodynia/vestibulitis imperforate hymen congenital absence of vagina vaginitis uterine anomalies ovarian cysts endometriosis pelvic inflammatory disease yada, yada. All these things come under the remit of a doctor. Not a midwife, we are experts in NORMAL the above conditions are NOT nornal. But I did ask why you did pre labour v/e's at 39 weeks too. Care to elaborate? Gail
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