Re: Legal opinion needed
From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Fri Feb 24 12:25:05 2006
I bash the Yankees all the time ... I'm a Mets fan LOL.
Art
At Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>
>Yankeebashing aside, I am really starting to worry about you guys.
>
>The treatment for Opioids is Narcan not assault. Maybe in adults, but
>that's another story :-)-O
>
>The deLee suction bulb I read about so often, would scare me to bits,
>but then I work in a country with 24 to 30% of mothers being HIV
>positive, even if I cut them all and thus Pediatrics is there.
>
>I find that a bit of stimulation is quite helpful and I like to blow
>some (exhaled) air onto them, which seems to work very well. (I think
>it's the temperature difference, not the breath mint).
>
>The last one I really whacked was my first son in 1989 (I had to give
>anaesthetics to my wife for the C/S as well, but then, yet another
>story) and then corporal punishment hadn't been barred yet, so I am safe
>:-)-O
>
>In my experience babies that cry don't need suction at all. Just
>stimulates the Vagus.
>
>el
>
>kaycnm@aol.com wrote:
>> In the bad old days, women were given as much Morphine and Scope as
>> would keep them quiet. Babies were often severly depressed at delivery
>> and often needed a lot of stimulation to keep breathing. Without the
>> immediate suction tubing that we have available now, I suspect that
>> whacking and gravity cleared many babies airways.
>>
>> At Northside in Atlanta a few years ago, the delivery rooms were
>> suddenly equipt with fancy baby whackers; soft rubber cups on a very
>> flexible handle. Many babies were deemed sufficiently "mucousy" to need
>> extensive whacking. The actual effect was quite benign, but the sound
>> brought horrified looks to the parents who looked on. After a few years
>> of that, the whackers disappeared. I'm not sure why. But the babies
>> seem to be doing as well without them.
>>
>> Kay Johnson, CNM
>> Duluth, GA
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> "Life is too important to be taken seriously."
>> Oscar Wilde
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: GA12L@aol.com
>> To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net>
>> Sent: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:25:23 -0600
>> Subject: Re: Legal opinion needed
>>
>> In a message dated 24/02/2006 04:11:58 GMT Standard Time,
>> divinegracie@earthlink.net writes:
>>
>> Has anybody actually ever held a baby up by its feet upside down and
>> slapped its buttocks?
>>
>> Many years ago babies were slapped on their bottoms to stimulate them to
>> breathe after they were born. Can't be done today as it is classed as
>> assualt.
>>
>> Gail
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