Re: Legal opinion needed

From: Dr Eberhard Lisse (el@lisse.NA)
Fri Feb 24 11:47:46 2006

Yankeebashing aside, I am really starting to worry about you guys.

The treatment for Opioids is Narcan not assault. Maybe in adults, but that's another story :-)-O

The deLee suction bulb I read about so often, would scare me to bits, but then I work in a country with 24 to 30% of mothers being HIV positive, even if I cut them all and thus Pediatrics is there.

I find that a bit of stimulation is quite helpful and I like to blow some (exhaled) air onto them, which seems to work very well. (I think it's the temperature difference, not the breath mint).

The last one I really whacked was my first son in 1989 (I had to give anaesthetics to my wife for the C/S as well, but then, yet another story) and then corporal punishment hadn't been barred yet, so I am safe :-)-O

In my experience babies that cry don't need suction at all. Just stimulates the Vagus.

el

kaycnm@aol.com wrote: > In the bad old days, women were given as much Morphine and Scope as
> would keep them quiet. Babies were often severly depressed at delivery
> and often needed a lot of stimulation to keep breathing. Without the
> immediate suction tubing that we have available now, I suspect that
> whacking and gravity cleared many babies airways.
>
> At Northside in Atlanta a few years ago, the delivery rooms were
> suddenly equipt with fancy baby whackers; soft rubber cups on a very
> flexible handle. Many babies were deemed sufficiently "mucousy" to need
> extensive whacking. The actual effect was quite benign, but the sound
> brought horrified looks to the parents who looked on. After a few years
> of that, the whackers disappeared. I'm not sure why. But the babies
> seem to be doing as well without them.
>
> Kay Johnson, CNM
> Duluth, GA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Life is too important to be taken seriously."
> Oscar Wilde
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GA12L@aol.com
> To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net>
> Sent: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:25:23 -0600
> Subject: Re: Legal opinion needed
>
> In a message dated 24/02/2006 04:11:58 GMT Standard Time,
> divinegracie@earthlink.net writes:
>
> Has anybody actually ever held a baby up by its feet upside down and
> slapped its buttocks?
>
> Many years ago babies were slapped on their bottoms to stimulate them to
> breathe after they were born. Can't be done today as it is classed as
> assualt.
>
> Gail

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