Re: Gyn H/S Fluid Management

From: Joanne Bulley, MD (islesannie@yahoo.com)
Mon Jan 30 21:16:00 2006


I would definitely use the eyeball method for the short diagnostic 'scopes - but I really want this for the operative H/S.

I had a patient see me with records (OR and office) from elsewhere ... there had been a fluid deficit of 9L (yes that is 9 liters) before someone said "stop" ...

That was before filing a case and that one settled out of court ... She is pretty much back to her pre - surgical status according to both her and her husband. Sodium was down about 109 when she was in the PACU and then trasferred to the ICU.

The OR knows that I am really really testy when the "fluid management RN" is not giving me moment by moment numbers. I just stop the procedure and get the person back on the ball. I refuse to run the fluid without the person doing his / her job!

Joanne

At Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Garry E. Siegel, M.D. wrote: >
>I think that ours is Wolf and a bit older and cumbersome for the staff,
>but it does the job.
>
>Agree that you must use this for glycine.
>
>For simple diagnostic scopes with LR, we frequently start with a bag
>under pressure and the eyeball system (no opening of expensive tubing,
>etc.) and then convert if it will be a longer procedure.
>
>Garry
>
>At Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Joanne Bulley, MD wrote:
>>
>>Thanks Myer and Larry. It was my understanding that we are really an
>>outlier at this point and must change .... good to have someone else
>>say it for me to take back to the OR!
>>
>>Joanne
>>
>>At Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Myer S. Bornstein wrote:
>>>
>>>I have been using the Gynecare system since it was FemRx and it has kept me
>>>out of fluid trouble. I had seen a 3 liter change in 15 minutes with the
>>>eyeball system. Tell your hospital a fluid collection system is the
>>>standard of care and if a patient develops hyponatremia with the way they
>>>are doing it now there is BIG liability
>>>Myer
>>>
>>>--
>

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Joanne Bulley, MD
Keene, NH, USA

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