Re: Not really Kick Counts
From: Andrew Folley (agfolley@hotmail.com)
Wed Dec 21 16:25:36 2005
Dont forget the "'colliseums" along with bread and circuses. Football
tickets anywhere from 50 to several hundred dollars and full of people that
cannot or choose not to afford insurance. Caesar
>From: DoctorJoe@aol.com
>Reply-To: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net>
>Subject: Re: Not really Kick Counts
>Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:17:42 -0600
>
>In a message dated 12/21/05 12:42:18 PM, annam@uic.edu writes:
>
> > Why would you say public aid is not ideal insurance? From the patient's
> > perspective I'd say it comes close (though certainly not from the doc's
> > perspective) Full coverage, no deductibles, tiny co-pays ($1-2 here in
> > Illinois, no co-pay if you're pregnant).
> >
>
>And therein lies the problem.
>
>I'm sorry (again) but we can't sit here and say America has terrible
>healthcare because of "uncovered" people when they CHOOSE to be uncovered
>(generally)
>because the public safety net is there for them to fall in free (to them)
>and
>they like it that way.
>
>It's typical political "rubbish" (to quote El) to bemoan the fact that we
>have pooooor people with no health insurance and then bemoan the fact that
>we
>need to spend more money on the "national" health plans. If you keep
>supporting
>them, they will CONTINUE to choose not to be formally covered.
>
>So long as there is "bread" and "circuses" the plebians will continue their
>sluggish ways.
>
>Joe P.
>
>P.S. And it's clear that this is a "modern" phenomenon. None of their
>"ancestors," be they immigrants from Europe or Asia, or even "lowly"
>historically
>ex-slaves from Africa, were as lazy and give-me-something-for-free as the
>subject
>parties are now. I remember as a kid (i.e. before the great Lyndon
>Johnson)
>how hard working the poor and the several generation immigrants were. Then
>came the Great Society - more like a Great Rip-off.
>
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