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Re: Dr.Klein, where are you From: Jamie (ajfields@pine-net.com) Tue Nov 29 11:33:41 2005 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Henry Gregor: "Re: C/S complications" Previous message: Henry Gregor: "Re: C/S complications - Bonding" In reply to: doctorjoe@aol.com: "Re: Dr.Klein, where are you" Next in thread: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: Dr.Klein, where are you" I do think some difference has been made between actual physical risks to the patients (not that everyone agrees on those) and liability risks to the practitioner. It is incredibly unfortunate that anyone who practices OB or midwifery in the U.S. has to put their liability considerations into the equation, but until the U.S. as a society understands that everything doesn't have to be someone's fault, that can't change. I don't hold out much hope-was looking for an attorney this morning to deal with my mother-in-law's affairs, and had to wade through 5 pages of ads for personal injury attorneys. For perspective, the "yellow page" directory is 87 pages. Back to lurking and learning as you guys discuss abnormal paps and when to deliver preeclamptics. At Tue, 29 Nov 2005, doctorjoe@aol.com wrote: > >As I said before, using immaterial arguments, questionable facts, class warfare, and other tactics, the thread has degenerated into meaninglessness. > >Of late, a few anecdotal comments and exposition have actually given the underlying evidence for the differences between midwifery and OBstetery and between US and Canadian and British obstetrics generally. Those ideas actually clarify some of the arguments on both sides and demonstrate the apples and oranges of the whole thread. But that doesn't seem to have fallen on fertile ground. > >We seem to be fixated on the "midwives must be crazy" versus "OBs must be evil" reduction which obviously is not the case generally. > >Joe P. > >-----Original Message----- >From: ENDODOK@aol.com >To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net> >Sent: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:47:25 -0600 >Subject: Re: Dr.Klein, where are you > >I too am considering removal from the list. The format has degenerated from it original intent as a forum for ob/gyn physicians, to a free for all between MD's, CNMW's and lay midwives. The birthing thread is redundant and to a large extent is an educational vehicle for lay midwives. Let us return to our original format. I am tired of deleting repetitive opinions on a subject that has had enough commentary. > >JGB -- JFields, RN, BSN Next message: Henry Gregor: "Re: C/S complications" Previous message: Henry Gregor: "Re: C/S complications - Bonding" In reply to: doctorjoe@aol.com: "Re: Dr.Klein, where are you" Next in thread: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: Dr.Klein, where are you"

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