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Re: I have an idea... From: Andrew Folley (agfolley@hotmail.com) Mon Nov 28 08:18:14 2005 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Jamie: "Re: C/sections on demand" Previous message: Andrew Folley: "Re: I have an idea..." In reply to: GA12L@aol.com: "Re: I have an idea..." Next in thread: lfolgar: "Re: I have an idea..." The fetus doesn't have any rights. It has rights once it is born but not before. The welfare of the mother always comes first even to the detriment of the health or life of the baby Gail This may be part of our problem, Gail On this side of the pond we fell that babies do have rights including ones that have not been born yet. I beleve it goes back to 1776 when they yelled "no midwifation without representation". >From: GA12L@aol.com >Reply-To: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net >To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net> >Subject: Re: I have an idea... >Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:46:27 -0600 > >In a message dated 27/11/2005 13:47:41 GMT Standard Time, rmodugno@aol.com >writes: > >You mean a chronic paranoid schizophrenic with 2 previous sections,twins, >a >placenta accreta, pre-eclampsia, and uncontrolled diabetes mellitus can >insist on a home delivery, and your "code of ethics" says you have a duty >to >attend? What about your "duty" to the fetus? > >The fetus doesn't have any rights. It has rights once it is born but not >before. The welfare of the mother always comes first even to the detriment >of >the health or life of the baby > >"You mean a chronic paranoid schizophrenic with 2 previous sections,twins, >a >placenta accreta, pre-eclampsia, and uncontrolled diabetes mellitus can >insist on a home delivery?" > >If she decides on a home birth then who is going to go to her house when in >labour and drag her kicking and screaming into hospital. I'm not saying >she's right and a paranoid schizo may well be sectioned (not c/sectioned) >under >the mental health act. But without the mental problems she can do what she >likes. We can advise against it until we're blue in the face but the final >decision is the woman's. End of... > >Over here if women make choices then they accept the responsibility for >those choices. That's what it's all about. Over there it seems that >women are >deemed incapable of making an informed decision which is, of course, >nonsense. > If a woman wants a home birth, or a VBAC or anything for that matter >then >who says she can't? Who's going to stop her and who is going to police >it? >The CIA, FBI (Don't know much about either, to me they're just letters)? > >Gail > Next message: Jamie: "Re: C/sections on demand" Previous message: Andrew Folley: "Re: I have an idea..." In reply to: GA12L@aol.com: "Re: I have an idea..." Next in thread: lfolgar: "Re: I have an idea..."

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