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Re: Homebirths From: ainsron (ainsron@sbcglobal.net) Tue Nov 22 10:14:37 2005 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Geffrey Klein: "Novasure and Reimbursement" Previous message: ainsron: "Re: To FACOGs" In reply to: ainsron: "Re: Homebirths" Next in thread: lfolgar: "Re: Homebirths" Oops, the change was in about 1979, not 1975. Ronald E. Ainsworth, MD, FACOG -----Original Message----- From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of ainsron Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L Subject: Re: Homebirths In residency we used the rule of "75," the mother's age multiplied by her parity had to be greater than or equal to 75. I.E., a multip age 25 with three children could be sterilized, but a 35 yo with two children could not. Never made much sense to me, but a lot of things in institutions when carried to extremes do not. This was in 1975-79, in a USAF hospital, and patients and husbands also had to attend a sterilization counseling session together and both had to sign the consent, irregardless of which one was being sterilized. That changed in about 1975, when the Supreme Court mandated that no one has the right to veto a competent adult's decision regarding reproduction. Ronald E. Ainsworth, MD, FACOG -----Original Message----- From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Joanne Bulley, MD Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L Subject: Re: Homebirths Regarding vasectomy: when my folks decided on vasectomy (my mom was an RN - and had had an illegal "kitchen table" termination ... for my dad to ahve a vasectomy, he had to ahve a note signed by my mother's doctor saying she medically could not / should not have any more children (having already had three) ... my mom's doc said, "you can certainly have more children" and my mom said "but I am not - sign the paper"! In some hospitals the "rules" for allowing sterilization procedures was something like 4 kids or more and 40 years old ... and various other rules. It was really left to each community or hospital to regulate this. I am certain that Britain -- or any other country has laws - or local regulations - that would make others of us say "WHAT?!?!?" as well. Joanne At Mon, 21 Nov 2005, GA12L@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 21/11/2005 15:10:33 GMT Standard Time, >forcep@intercom.net writes: > >For the good ole USA ,Gail, you need know only two issues, Capitalism >and our legal system. > >I would be afraid to practise under the conditions you lot do. You have my >admiration. > >"In 1968 when I started practice if a >woman wished a tubal ligation she was forced to get approval of two >psychiatrist." > >You're not joking are you? What if a man wanted a vasectomy? I really do >struggle to understand your system over there. I suppose I believe that if >you pay for services then you should get what you want. For women over here >services are free at the point of contact yet they have more choice than their >American counterparts who pay. Doesn't make sense does it? > >Oh well, ces't la vie or is that le. German was never my strong point... > >Gail -- Joanne Bulley, MD Keene, NH, USA "Love is indescribable and unconditional. I could tell you a thousand things that it is not, but not one that it is." - Duke Ellington, American jazz artist (1899-1974). Next message: Geffrey Klein: "Novasure and Reimbursement" Previous message: ainsron: "Re: To FACOGs" In reply to: ainsron: "Re: Homebirths" Next in thread: lfolgar: "Re: Homebirths"

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