Re: Habemus Papam!
From: Steve & Eryl Raymond (eryl@intekom.co.za)
Wed Apr 20 22:40:12 2005
Interesting article in the AJOG two or three months back about teenage
pregnancies in South America - might have been Uruguay. Worth a look if
you really think teenage pregnancies are usually easy!
Steve Raymond
Richard Chudacoff, MD wrote:
>Just one point to clarify: Teenage pregnancies are usually pretty healthy
>and easy. They might not fit with our present belief system, but I am amazed
>how well they handle postpartum (other than the typical immature secondary
>gain posturing)
>
>Richard Chudacoff, MD
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of
>aippg@aippg.com
>Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:34 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>Subject: Re: Habemus Papam!
>
>I have a strong belief that if a organisation does not change with time,
>does not become more progressive: the organisation is bound to stagnate or
>wither away.
>
>I sincerely hoped that this time a woman could have been chosen but:(
>
>By the way can anyone make out of the "Olive " tag given to this papal? I
>cannot find any meaning
>
>>There are some truths that cannot be changed no matter who the messenger
>>is. It is always best to stay with one partner. It is always best to
>>have verbal communication between sexual partners. The mosaic laws may
>>be "outdated" but does that mean we do not need hygenic practices? Same
>>with sexual health. Spread of HPV is not good. Teenage sex/pregnancy
>>is not healthy. What we implement is a safety net for sinners. I think
>>we need to stick together (sinners who would rather not be). In my
>>lifetime, I have not heard of anyone being excommunicated for OCP use.
>>But does that mean that the communication and consideration necessary in
>>NFP is not a good thing? I know of one woman (1960's) who went to the
>>priest before her sons' first communion whom "by the rules" had to
>>confess before she could approach the alter with her son. She used
>>ocp's because she nearly died in her last pregnancy. She was forgiven,
>>even without a "contrite heart" for what she was doing and allowed to
>>recieve communion with her sons. And for physicans and NP's who deal
>>with Catholic's who have had abortions, I ask you to inquire about the
>>"Racheal Project" in your local churches.
>>About two years ago, there was an article in a Archdiocesan newspaper
>>about Emergency Contraception this newspaper explained that since it's
>>action was to prevent ovulation and the meeting of sperm and egg it was
>>to be considered as (unnatural) oral contraceptive pills. Not as God
>>planned it, but NOT an abortifacient.
>>
>>I think it was said best, that we have a multitude of sins to worry
>>about within the Church; genocide, racial cleansing, poverty, apathy,
>>intolerance etc. Some of the "American" issues are just petty peeves.
>>
>>At Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Gerald P. Rodríguez wrote:
>>
>>>And just who are "all" of you?
>>>
>>>Gerald P. Rodríguez, M.D., FACOG
>>>Santa Fe
>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>From: "Dr Eberhard W Lisse" <el@lisse.NA>
>>>To: "Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L" <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:11 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Habemus Papam!
>>>
>>>>Yes, we are all shocked and dismayed at theses old mens' choice.
>>>>
>>>>But then natural selection will take its cause in a few years so the
>>>>church has a chance to get someone who can face the challanges.
>>>>
>>>>Hmm, is Alzheimers caused by abstinence?
>>>>
>>>>greetings, el
>>>>
>>>>In message <198.3d444b5f.2f96a4c8@aol.com>, DoctorJoe@aol.com writes:
>>>>
>>>>>In a message dated 4/19/05 12:12:43 PM, annam@uic.edu writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>You got your Panzer Pope, Joe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Amen! They say that God works in mysterious ways, but sometimes he
>>>>>just WORKS! HOOah!
>>>>>
>>>>>LOL
>>>>>
>>>>>Joe P.
>>>>>
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