Re: trapped vertex at c-section

From: Bernard Cristalli (bcrist@club-internet.fr)
Thu Jun 10 04:38:11 2004


Dan, You can use the forceps with the blades directed downwards. More powerful than the gloved hand in the vagina.

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> De : "Braun, R. Daniel" <rbraun@iupui.edu> > Répondre à : ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net > Date : Thu, 10 Jun 2004 01:06:19 -0500 > À : Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net> > Objet : RE: trapped vertex at c-section > > I have used it, but you have to get the head out of the pelvis before > you put it on. > > Dan > > "Sound is like water. If you drill one hole in the wall the sound will > leak right through." > > - JAY BRAUN, a band member by love, a soundproofer by necessity. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Elrod > Glen Maj 3 MDG/SGOB > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:23 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L > Subject: RE: trapped vertex at c-section > > Have you ever used the Murless forcep? I've seen them lying around the > unit and thought about using them but I've never had a problem with the > gloved hand in the vagina, either. > > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Braun, R. Daniel [mailto:rbraun@iupui.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:27 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L > Subject: RE: trapped vertex at c-section > > I have probably been very lucky, but so far (knock on wood Thunk thunk)a > gloved hand in the vagina has always been able to push the head back up > out of the pelvis. > > Dan > > "Sound is like water. If you drill one hole in the wall the sound will > leak right through." > > - JAY BRAUN, a band member by love, a soundproofer by necessity. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of freda > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:26 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L > Subject: re: trapped vertex at c-section > > At 20:15 -0500 6/9/04, freda wrote: >> Have been asked for opinion about a bad obstetrical outcome following >> the inability of the Ob to free the vertex from the pelvis during a >> cesarean. Please email me privately if you have knowledge of any cases >> similar to this. The defense needs examples of other cases to show >> that this is a rare but not unique event. >> >> Thanks, >> Richard Kaplan, MD FACOG >> Greensboro, NC > > In the "Tenth Annual Report of the Obstetrical Review Committee for > the Office of the Chief Coroner for Ontario" Dr Karen Acheson, > Jan-Dec 2003 > > "Neonate died of complications of birth trauma. Postmortem found > multiple skull fractures and widespread subgaleal hemorrhage. > > "The labour was long, and an emergency CS was performed. The placenta > was anterior and had to be cut to reach the fetus. The baby's head > was firmly wedged in the pelvis and manual manipulation was required > to extract it, prolonging the period in which the baby was relaying > on a traumatized placenta for oxygen. The multiple fractures were > likely sustained as a consequence of the force applied during the > procedure. Measures were taken in the form of uterine relaxants and > help from below to assist in the delivery. " > > This report is a form of quality assurance. Cases are reviewed by a > multi-disciplinary group and recommendations are written. this is > sent to all OB providers in the province. > > In the above case, the recs included informing peds of the special > circs associated with the birth. Also, to consider hem shock when > resucitating pale newborns. > -- > Freda Seddon > > Community Midwife > Toronto, Canada >





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