Re: The Enemy of Women -Thought-provoking(Long)
From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Thu May 6 07:30:25 2004
This item from the BBC puts "women's rights" in perspective - hope to
hear from Sen. Clinton, Susan Sarandon, Whoopie Goldberg, et al on
these issues.
'Terrorists' poisoned schoolgirls
Direct attacks on schoolgirls in Afghanistan are rare
The Afghan president has blamed "terrorist elements" for the poisoning
of three schoolgirls in the eastern province of Khost.
Hamid Karzai said they were poisoned by people opposed to girls
attending school, and described the perpetrators as inhuman.
"I will not call anyone an Afghan or a Muslim who poisons an
eight-year-old... because she is school-going," he added.
He said the girls were in critical condition.
However, a local official told AP news agency that they had recovered.
The official said the incident happened five or six days ago outside the
city of Khost's only girls' school.
"A woman gave poisoned fruit powder to the girls and told them to mix it
with water and drink it," he said.
"After a couple of minutes, they were unconscious."
Reports say a woman has been arrested in connection with the attack.
Correspondents say extremists have mounted arson attacks on girls'
schools in the past, but direct attacks on students are rare.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3678529.stm
At Tue, 4 May 2004, Joanne Bulley, MD wrote:
>
>Joe,
>
>I agree - and - I am not a true pacifist (against all wars etc) - nor am
>I a full Pro-Lifer -- those are not my causes. I think each of us must
>answer to that Power which most believe in - whether one is a Catholic -
>or Jew - or Buddhist - or Muslim - or Humanist - or Atheist. For each
>person (as I see it - which could be wrong, for sure) there ends up
>being something which guides one's judgement. For some it is a
>religious doctrine that says you will suffer in Hell forever - for
>others there is an internal code of morality - but nearly every human
>has something that helps guide decisions and behavior. Those that don't
>seem to usually end up being considered sociopaths.
>
>I do know folks who are full pacifists - and those that are complete
>Pro-lifers.
>
>There are also those against "war" - of one contry toward another - but
>not against self defense. Human Beings come in all types - and many
>philosopshies.
>
>My problem is those that use the "Pro-life" statement as a
>holier-than-thou statement implying that to allow an individual to
>listen to her own ethics and choose to have an abortion is more evil
>than the "kill whatever" attitude that I have observed in the extremist
>& very vocal "Pro-life" individuals have about other people and
>situations.
>
>It is fine to have an opinion about abortion - don't ever do one -
>encourage others to not have them - etc. All I ask is for folks think
>about what is meant by declaring a "Pro-life" stance.
>
>Yes there are those true Pacifists who would not engage in even self
>defense. Those are extremely few. Hence my belligerent attitude about
>the labe of "Pro-Life" -- it is an extremely rare human being (I think)
>who can truly say that there is no instance where the taking of another
>life is an acceptable decison.
>
>At Tue, 4 May 2004, DoctorJoe@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>Not to nit pick....
>>
>>"Against all wars" includes a (mistakenly applied) blanket condemnation of
>>self-defense. If you're an avowed pacifist, and by definition you'd sit by idly
>>and watch someone kill a family member, or yourself, or rob them and bodily
>>harm them, etc., then I don't believe in your cause. Just because I don't want
>>to kill innocent children, or the incarcerated, or whatever, doesn't mean I
>>wouldn't bend, fold, mutilate and strangle someone who, for example, tried to
>>hurt one of my kids. Sorry.
>>
>>The logical conclusion to that is, if someone tried to hurt my country and
>>kill the people in it, including my children, then I (or my agents, the U.S.
>>Armed Forces) will definitely proceed to the bend, fold, and mutilate action as
>>soon as humanly possible. Not sorry.
>>
>>Joe P.
>
>--
>Joanne Bulley, MD
>Keene, NH, USA
>
>-----
>Mission Accomplished? 5/1/03: major combat operations are over in Iraq. We won.
>Mission Unaccomplished. 5/1/04: 131 US troops killed in April 2004 alone.
> 734 total, 596 since "we won".
>"There are no longer torture chambers or rape rooms or mass graves in Iraq."
> - GW Bush, 4/30/04
>"U.S. Army report that Iraqi detainees were subjected to "sadistic, blatant and
> wanton criminal abuses" at the Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad."
> - CBS News 4/30/04.
>Torture including rape, sodomization, electrocution, humiliation, dog attacks.
> - all photographed by smiling US soldiers.
>
>My duty is to speak. I have no wish to be an accomplice.
>
--
art fougner, md
ich bin ein New Yorker
