Re: abnormal pap

From: Efrain Ramirez (eramirezt@coqui.net)
Mon Oct 7 18:09:45 2002


Cone biopsy - AND very good point by Gail --

>At Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Dr. Ainsworth wrote:
>
>74 yo lady with PMB, on HRT for over two years. Sonogram showed a
>thickened endometrium, hysteroscopy showed benign polyps, w/squamous
>metaplasia and simple hyperplasia, ecc was negative. Pap done at the
>time of her preop exam returned two weeks later, showed abnormal cells,
>suspicious for adenocarcinoma. Colposcopy was negative, except for
>small, benign appearing polypoid growth on the cervix that was
>pathologically benign. The ECC was negative. When the pathologist
>reviewed all of the slides and paps at the same time, he felt the
>abnormal pathology originated in the polyp that was removed at the time
>of the hysteroscopy and was therefore there was no evidence of
>malignancy. Never one to leave "well enough alone," I repeated the pap
>at the time of the last colposcopy, of course it returned with the
>comment, abnormal cells, appear to be glandular, suspect adenocarcinoma.
>
>Now what to do? This lady is a train wreck, severe COPD on oxygen
>therapy 24/7, not a very good candidate for surgery, although she did
>well with the hysteroscopy. She is not a good candidate for office
>LEEP, her cervix is very difficult to visualize, even for a colpo, the
>upper vagina tunnels in and it does not descend well at all. I'm
>thinking that I should probably do a cone biopsy in the hospital, but
>what if that is not diagnostic either? Who would vote for going directly
>to TAH/BSO? Currently I'm waiting to hear back from a couple of gyn
>oncs.

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