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Re: Consent for delivery From: Efrain Ramirez (eramirezt@coqui.net) Wed Jul 31 17:35:37 2002 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: The pregnancy that wasn't" Previous message: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: Consent for delivery" In reply to: art fougner, md: "Re: Consent for delivery" Next in thread: l.glazerman@rcn.com: "Re: Consent for delivery" The informed consent includes episiotomy, forceps, repair of 3-4th degree - etc,etc, - I agree with you that a "better" name would be other than "consent" -- maybe "informed discussion and consent" :-) Agree with DAn - Court is another option ! >At Wed, 31 Jul 2002, art fougner, md wrote: > >major beneficiaries of consent are the attorneys. the big losers are >the forests and our environment. the concept of consent should be >replaced by a new concept - informed discussion. > >just my opinion - i could be wrong. > >art > >At Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Garry E. Siegel, M.D. wrote: >> >>When the informed consent law hit Georgia in 1989, we all thought the >>same, but our legal friends pretty much said that we were better off >>with a consent signed than without one, FWIW. >> >>Garry >> >>At Tue, 30 Jul 2002, D. Ashley Hill, MD wrote: >>> >>>At Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Joe Cutchin wrote: >>>> >>>>Consent for loabor and delivery? Never heard of it? What are the other options? >>> >>>I have to agree. How can you require patients to sign a consent form >>>for the default "procedure" which is a (presumed) uncomplicated vaginal >>>delivery. The only other option is a cesarean, and if you don't offer >>>that to patients without an indication there is no reason for a consent. >>>It's different when there is an option, such as with a VBAC patient. >>>Further, in the future we may offer vaginal or elective cesarean >>>delivery depending on patient wishes. In that case a consent is >>>indicated because you are comparing two options with unique risks, >>>benefits and alternatives. >>> >>>Ashley >>> >>>-- >>>D. Ashley Hill, MD >>>Associate Director >>>Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology >>>Florida Hospital Family Practice Residency >>>Orlando, Florida >>> >>-- >>Garry E. Siegel, M.D. >>Private Practice >>Roswell, GA >> >-- >art fougner, md >ich bin ein New Yorker > -- "Life is neither the notes nor the silence between the notes, but the music that arises out of sound and silence felt as a living whole. Stop choosing...between chaos and order, and live at the boundary between them, where rest and action move together..." David Whyte Next message: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: The pregnancy that wasn't" Previous message: Efrain Ramirez: "Re: Consent for delivery" In reply to: art fougner, md: "Re: Consent for delivery" Next in thread: l.glazerman@rcn.com: "Re: Consent for delivery"

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