Re: Jury Finds Guilty of Homicide in Stillbirth.
From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Mon May 28 11:02:26 2001
Fetal Rights! hmmmm? add fetuses to the list of americans who have more
rights than physicians.
just my opinion - i could be wrong.
art
At Mon, 28 May 2001, Efrain Ramirez wrote:
>
>Very good points -- the issue on fetus "legal rights" is one of the most
>controversial subjects I can find -- it goes to the very core of "why
>are we here" questions - to find "legal answers" to those questions is
>ludicrous - to find "legal solutions" to the problem is, on the other
>hand, wise. Is that an oxymoron?
>
>We as human beings have evolved, not merely anatomically, but socially
>and morally - what will humans would "think or behave" (individually and
>as a society) in 200 years from now - is anyone's guess - I try, for the
>time been and as best as I can, not to be judgmental - I adhere to the
>thoughts by David Whyte -
>
>At Mon, 28 May 2001, Paul Prior MD wrote:
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>>On Mon, 28 May 2001 07:18:16 -0500, Kathi Wilson <wilsonk@gtn.on.ca>
>>wrote:
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>>>Efrain Ramirez wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A80091-2001May26.html
>>>> Comments?
>>>
>>>Gee, sounds like they've found yet one more way to fill up your jails. What an
>>>elegant solution.
>>>
>>>This decision could not be rendered north of the border. In Canada, the fetus at
>>>any stage has no legal rights under the law, and therefore legal definitions of
>>>murder, manslaughter, abuse etc. do not apply. Similarly, a woman's autonomy is
>>>paramount and she cannot be forced to undergo measures on behalf of the fetus (eg.
>>>Caesarean section).
>>
>>And such ideas, when carried to their logic endpoint, means that since
>>a fetus has "no rights" and a woman's "autonomy is paramount",
>>elective late 3rd term abortion should be fine, right?
>>
>>Don't be fooled into thinking the answer is clear, one way or the
>>other. The abortion debate is not one that needs to be played out
>>here, but these issues as it relates to a mother's indirect care of
>>her unborn child have serious weight in many people's minds. If a
>>baby is a person the minute he or she is born, but yet 10 minutes
>>prior to that time he/she has "NO legal rights", doesn't that strike
>>you as a bit strange?
>>
>>--
>>Paul Prior MD They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
>>Coshocton, OH temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
>>Solo Practice - Benjamin Franklin, 1759.
>>OB/GYN, FACOG
>>
>--
>"Life is neither the notes nor the silence between the notes, but the music that
> arises out of sound and silence felt as a living whole. Stop choosing...between
> chaos and order, and live at the boundary between them, where rest and action
> move together..." David Whyte
>
--
art fougner, md
A series of 1000 cases begins with but a single anecdote.
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