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Re: comments? From: Anna Meenan, MD (annam@uic.edu) Fri May 18 15:49:39 2001 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Steve Raymond: "Re: comments?" Previous message: Anna Meenan, MD: "Re: GEN: FDA's Integrity?" In reply to: Mats O. Bergstrom: "Re: comments?" Scandinavians are so much more enlightened about midwives and home birth. The only "criminality" is that it is illegal in the state of Illinois for anyone other than an MD, DO, CNP, or chiropracter to delivery a baby and send the parents a bill (techically anyone can catch a baby anywhere in Illinois as long as they don't charge for it.) It is legal for Certified Professional Midwives to practice in many states in the US, but not the enlightened state of Illinois. Again, it would be interesting to know the details of the case, but I'm sure Yvonne has been instructed not to discuss it with anyone while the trial is going on, so I don't know what really happened. I find it interesting that the parents may testify on behalf of Yvonne, and that it is the State that is pressing charges. Does anyone know of any cases where a doc has been tried for manslaughter in the death of a baby born in a hospital? -- Anna Meenan, MD At Fri, 18 May 2001, Mats O. Bergstrom wrote: > >>Prosecutors contended that Cryns mishandled a difficult breech birth, >>letting about 45 minutes pass from the time the baby's foot appeared >>until the infant was delivered. > >45 minutes could be within acceptable limits for this later part of a >breech delivery´s second stage if it´s a foot-breech (Buddha) >presentation. Classically, the very wrong thing is to start pulling >before the umbilical insertion is almost showing - this might >cause entrapment of the arms. Of course, it helps to have an >acceptable (it's rarely perfect in these situations) CTG tracing >during these pushs... But perhaps the lay midwife listened for good >FHR's in between pushs, and they really were there? Then, if the >mother chose to have a high risk home breech delivery and was >fully informed that the midwife was "lay" , where is the criminality? > >The Devil's Advocate > >Mats Bergstrom, MD >South Hospital >Stockholm Next message: Steve Raymond: "Re: comments?" Previous message: Anna Meenan, MD: "Re: GEN: FDA's Integrity?" In reply to: Mats O. Bergstrom: "Re: comments?"

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