Re: It's bigger than a menopause question

From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Tue May 15 08:11:20 2001


It sure is, Jay

in today's ReutersHealth

NIH looks to industry input on assessing alternative medicine safety

Last Updated: 2001-05-14 17:05:21 EDT (Reuters Health)

By Chris Gearon

WASHINGTON (Reuters Health) - The US government Monday launched an initiative to solicit the ideas of producers and manufacturers of complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) therapeutics and other industrial stakeholders in order to create a process to evaluate such products for composition and patient safety.

The effort by the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM), which is also focused on providing consumers and clinicians with safety information on a host of popular non-conventional therapies, comes as American consumers increasingly look to complementary or non-conventional measures to treat illness.

About 40% of Americans are using one or more CAM modalities, while 60% of those individuals don't even tell their doctors they do so, Dr. Stephen Straus, NCCAM's director, told participants attending a colloquium here. Meanwhile, the research to support whether dietary supplements and a host of other alternative modalities are safe is lacking.

"There's a lack of product and practice standards," Straus said.

NCCAM is the National Institutes of Health entity charged with developing and supporting research on alternative medicine treatments. However, that task is a daunting one for a host of reasons. These include the fact that there are few competent CAM investigators, "market disincentives," a regulatory framework suited to approving conventional medications, lack of uniformity in product content of nutritional supplements and differing interests among various industry stakeholders.

While industry stakeholders--ranging from companies that produce, distribute and label CAM therapeutics to quality assessment organizations--all welcome NCCAM's role in helping to create standards for conducting research on alternative therapies, different industry stakeholders had different or even competing views on NCCAM's role in working with industry participants.

The dietary supplement industry, for example, would like the government to recognize and even approve alternative therapies on a different standard that is currently used by the FDA in approving conventional drugs, said Jim Lassiter, principal of the dietary supplement industry regulatory consulting firm The Lassiter Group.

In the US, regulatory bodies approve compounds for specific purposes and fail to evaluate "complex" products, such as botanicals, that could be used for multiple purposes, he added.

Government regulatory bodies should factor in anecdotal evidence, research done in other countries, research undertaken by unlicensed practitioners and other research that doesn't live up to the "Gold Standard" of randomized, controlled trials regarding the regulation of dietary supplements, he said. "Is there not room for an alternative model?," Lassiter asked. "And I think NCCAM needs to participate in this in fully."

However, drug and food companies want assurances that such products work in humans, Dr. Freddie Ann Hoffman, senior director of Pfizer Inc.'s medical and clinical consumer healthcare unit, told Reuters Health.

"Mainstream industry are indeed mainstream," and view CAM as "quackery" and without scientific rationale, Hoffman said. "Companies are very concerned about putting out things that don't work." She added that NCCAM can help define and confirm the safety and efficacy of alternative products and the process in which they are approved.

Meanwhile, Marilyn Barrett, president of Pharmacognosy Consulting Services, said that she would like NCCAM to play a role that supports companies with quality CAM therapeutics through the FDA approval process.

"The tendency is to distill products into boxes we know, and that is drugs," said Dr. Steven Dentali, scientific director for Botanical Sciences, Nutricia/Rexall Sundown. "NCCAM can play a key role in expanding that box."

-Westport Newsroom 203 319 2700

art

At Tue, 15 May 2001, jkulkin wrote: >
>I think it's a bigger issue. I find it difficult to understand why we in medicine
>don't want to believe the data that says only 30% (OK , lets even consider some
>reports that say 40%) of menopausal women take HRT. Even Speroff has been quoted to
>confirm this number. Why do we keep trying to force Premarin etc on women when they
>wont take it. Not only do we push it but as I said last week, 71% would give it to a
>owmen s/p MI dispite the HERS data. Even more incredible is our colleague reluctance
>to admit that their patients dont take what they prescribe. Remember, 30% fill the
>first HRT Rx and only 1/2 of them are taking it at the end of 1 year. Most docs
>think, " Not my patients". WRONG. I think it is this arorgance that has driven many
>patients and women in particular to alternative providers. Most of what we learned in
>medical school is historical fact. The shelf life of a medical degree has shortened
>considerabley. Endoscopic surgery, not laparotomy, salpingotomy, not salpingectomy,
>endo biopsy, not D&C, and the list goes on. I do believe it is time for GYN's to
>recognize that women have unique health care needs that go far beyond the pap and
>pelvic.
>
>Women are speaking with their feet folks. It's time to listen!
>
>Jay
>
>Carlos Brito wrote:
>
>> The body walks with a head on it..
>> At Sun, 06 May 2001, Denise Sobel wrote:
>> >
>> >I would like to make a comment about the
>> >increased visits to alternative care providers.
>> >I have found the times I have gone (maybe
>> >less then a dozen)...the provider has been able
>> >to spend alot more time with me. Not only do they
>> >provide the service I went for (acupuncture in
>> >one example) but they are able to spend time discussing
>> >diet, exercise, stress, etc. In fact, most visits are
>> >around an hour including treatment.
>> >
>> >Many doctors these days are not able to spend this
>> >much time mostly due to the HMO limitations, or
>> >just plain insurance limitations. I think that women
>> >these days are looking for practitioners who have the
>> >time to assess the 'whole' woman. Possibly, this may explain the
>> >reason why more women are seeking alternative care.
>> >
>> >Another, and we have touched on this slightly, is
>> >that many women cannot tolerate the side effects
>> >they get from synthetic HRT. Weight gain seems
>> >to be almost universal, as well as headaches, breast
>> >tenderness, and many others which you all know
>> >probably by heart!
>> >
>> >--
>> >Denise Sobel, R.N.
>> >N. Calif.
>> >
>> >jkulkin wrote:
>> >
>> >> Remember, there were more
>> >> visits to alternative care providers than MD's last year. I think that says a
>> >> lot.
>> >>

--
art fougner, md

A series of 1000 cases begins with but a single anecdote.





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