Re: Menpause Question
From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Mon May 7 09:11:27 2001
and Nature invented vancomycin-resistant staph just to teach foolish
mortals that it's not nice to fool Mother Nature! suggest once again
that so-called Natural as is being used in this thread with regard to
progesterone is an oxymoron. i would also add as a side-effect to many
fad remedies hypogreenemia.
art
At Sun, 6 May 2001, DoctorJoe@aol.com wrote:
>
>In a message dated 5/6/01 18:26:04, pprior@clover.net writes:
>
><< I maintain there is NOTHING that is not natural. The word exists as a
>marketing ploy to sell to gullible consumers. On a molecular level
>either it activates a receptor, or it doesn't. >>
>
>Well, not to be overly picky, but that's not exactly true. We make quite a
>few things, drugs for example, that activate receptors or kill germs or
>whatever, but which are NOT natural. They may be derived from a natural
>source, or modeled after natural compounds, but they may contain side chains
>and substitutions which are NEVER found in nature.
>
>A good example is the fluoride ion. We fluoridate drugs to give them
>prolonged half-lives, because fluorine is NOT the natural halide in our food
>and surroundings, chloride is. Bromine as well, but fluorine is a great one
>to discuss here.
>
>For instance, the fluoroquinolone antibiotics can be given once or twice a
>day, since it takes forever for them to be excreted or metabolized (or
>metabolised) in the body, since the fluoride is alien to our physiology.
>
>The diet pills, like phentermine and even methamphetamine, etc, cause various
>effects, but are generally excreted and then you're done with them. Their
>effects mimic various actions of epinephrine and norepinephrine. However, add
>a fluorine and the body can't get rid of it... hence you poison your
>receptors, as happened with fenFLUORamine and dexfenFLUORamine... they worked
>well, had really long half-lives, and poisoned the serotonin receptors in the
>brain.
>
>Of course, the opposite could be argued, as well. 17-beta-estradiol is a
>"natural" human hormone. However, replace it, with patches or injections, and
>what can you get? Anything from endometrial cancer to pulmonary embolus. Just
>because it's the true-to-life natural molecule doesn't make it safe. As I
>tell my children (and any nurses who ask), WATER is "natural" and you sure as
>hell can drown in it... Nature herself is "natural" and She invented
>pneumococcal pneumonia and bubonic plague.
>
>And so it goes...
>
>Joe P.
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art fougner, md
A series of 1000 cases begins with but a single anecdote.
