Re: HR 503
From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Mon Apr 30 09:17:56 2001
specifically excepted are medical situations -
`"(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to permit the
prosecution--
`(1) of any person for conduct relating to an abortion for which the
consent of the pregnant woman, or a person authorized by law to act on
her behalf, has been obtained or for which such consent is implied by
law;
`(2) of any person for any medical treatment of the pregnant woman or
her unborn child; or
`(3) of any woman with respect to her unborn child."
art
some view this as the first in a series of legal maneuvers to outflank
Roe v Wade.
art
At Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Richard Chudacoff, MD wrote:
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>What about an Ectopic with heart motion?
>
>--
>Richard Chudacoff, MD
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net]On Behalf Of Griffiths
>Malcolm (RC9) Luton & Dunstable Hospital TR
>Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 6:27 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>Subject: Re: HR 503
>
>Presumably termination of pregnancy is treated as an exception to these
>paragraphs?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: evsono@pipeline.com [mailto:evsono@pipeline.com]
>Sent: 27 April 2001 13:48
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>Subject: HR 503
>
>doubtless you've heard or will hear of the violence to the unborn act
>which president bush will sign.
>
>i call your collective attention to section 1841 -
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>" Sec. 1841. Protection of unborn children
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>`(a)(1) Whoever engages in conduct that violates any of the provisions
>of law listed in subsection (b) and thereby causes the death of, or
>bodily injury (as defined in section 1365) to, a child, who is in utero
>at the time the conduct takes place, is guilty of a separate offense
>under this section.
>
>`(2)(A) Except as otherwise provided in this paragraph, the punishment
>for that separate offense is the same as the punishment provided under
>Federal law for that conduct had that injury or death occurred to the
>unborn child's mother.
>
>`(B) An offense under this section does not require proof that--
>
>`(i) the person engaging in the conduct had knowledge or should have had
>knowledge that the victim of the underlying offense was pregnant; or
>
>`(ii) the defendant intended to cause the death of, or bodily injury to,
>the unborn child."
>
>theoretically anyone offering a drink to a pregnant woman, a vendor
>selling a pack of cigarettes, .... well you get the gist of the
>enormity of this slippery slope.
>
>perhaps those attending acog, in between heated discussions of vbacs in
>the outback might wish to bring this to the leadership's collective
>inattention.
>
>again strictly opinion - i could be wrong.
>
>art
>
>art
>
>--
>art fougner, md
>
>A series of 1000 cases begins with but a single anecdote.
>
--
art fougner, md
A series of 1000 cases begins with but a single anecdote.
