Re: Superfetation or severe IUGR??

From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Sat Feb 24 16:42:59 2001


Kelly -

this seems like trouble - have seen 6 wk sono's be radically off on the date but at 8.5 wks the sonar should be within +/- 5 days. be afraid be very afraid. has anyone done dopplers?

art

At Sat, 24 Feb 2001, M. Kelly Shanahan, MD wrote: >
>You tell me what you think:
>
>41 yo G1 (LMP 8/10 EDC 5/17) with essential hypertension has an abnormal
>triple screen (risks of TS 21 >1:10). Pt referred for genetic
>counseling under California's system and gets scanned -- by that 17 week
>scan the MFM redates her with an EDC of 6/14 and tells her we were off
>on her dates.
>
>That's well and good EXCEPT, she had first trimester spotting and had a
>TVUS 9/22 showing a 6 wk 3 day fetus with a heartbeat, another scan 2
>wks later showing an 8 wk 3 day fetus and a third scan at 15.3 weeks
>where measurements equaled 14.5 weeks. I call the MFM, who hadn't
>reviewed the records sent with the patient and he aggrees there probably
>really is a problem. Pt refuses genetic testing as she would not
>terminate under any circumstances.
>
>Pt continues to be significantly S<D and has serial US showing about a
>4-5 week discrepancy with her dates and early US.
>
>Sent for a second MFM consult with a different MFM (MFM#1 just does
>genetic counseling). This MFM scans her, gets an EDC of 6/20 and says
>there is no IUGR, just erroneous dates. He does review all hte data and
>can't explain how we saw a 6 week fetus on 9/22, which is a couple of
>days before the estimated date of conception according to his scan.
>"Maybe she lost the first one and just got pregnant again" is his
>explantation".
>
>I know superfetation occurs in horses, but humans? And even if this is
>superfetation, how can you explain seeing a fetus at 6 wks, 8 wk and 15
>wks, then it completely disappearing only to be replaced by a second
>baby, never seen before that is 4 weeks younger??
>
>Kelly
>Kelly Shanahan, MD, FACOG
>S. Lake Tahoe, CA

--
art fougner, md

A series of 1000 cases begins with but a single anecdote.





use when must restrict search to only the ob-gyn-l forum...
Enter search keywords:
Returns per screen: Require all keywords:

Return to  OB-GYN-L Mail a New Message to the Forum: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net
Forum Administrator: geffrey.klein@obgyn.net
Report Technical Problems: webmaster@obgyn.net
Last Updated: Mon Nov 2 04:47:31 2009

The American Medical Association is no longer designating CME hours for AMA Category II CME credit. However, physicians themselves may self designate learning activities as Category II CME credit hours if they feel it is of sufficient educational merit and meets the formal definitions of continuing medical education. OBGYN.net believes these interaction in this forum meets these criteria. For further information see the AMA web site.