Re: OB: OP versus OA

From: Efrain Ramirez (eramirez@icepr.com)
Sat Dec 30 10:35:27 2000


In the case of a real fetal compromise -C/S would take longer - intrauterine resuscitation not working -- I feel comfortable applying them in that scenario - otherwise I just wait. As you well know, in our environment, the word forceps means malpractice if *anything* goes wrong - for 21 years --

Sat, 30 Dec 2000, croure@attglobal.net wrote: >
>At Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Efrain Ramirez wrote:
>>
>>If I have to use forceps I would deliver OP - won't rotate.
>>
>As Robert would say, the midwife in me wonders why would to "have to use
>forceps?". Look at Garry's post, babe born with Fascial palsy in one
>side and the other side with a mark (if I remember well). The mother
>was "slow" and so probably will the child. Mom is pissed and when the
>child turns out to be slow or maybe even slower than mom, then
>ahaaaaaa!!!!!!!!-----"the forceps!!!!!!!!".
>
>OP's will deliver fine if NO epidural. I think epidurals are the curse
>of modern day obstetrics in USA.
>OF course, everybody will disagree and scream. "I could be...and
>probably am......wrong, it is just my opinion"
>
>Carlos

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