Perinatal morbity: was: List

From: Richard Chudacoff, MD (rchudacoff@mylinuxisp.com)
Mon Oct 30 07:36:10 2000


So I guess the question is, if we are the richest country in the world, and prematurity is directly related to prenatal care (or lack of it) why are so many women without prenatal care in the USA? Is it the size, the homogeneity or the national health system that allows the Scandinavian countries such a low prenatal delivery rate?

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-----Original Message----- From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net]On Behalf Of Braun, R. Daniel Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 7:04 AM To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L Subject: Re: List

Joe, You are right. If one looks at all babaies weighing between 500 and 750 gms, the perinatal mortality rate in the US is the lowest in the world. The same if you look at all babies weighing 750-1000, and right on up the line. Birthweight specific perinatal mortality rates show the US to be the best at each birth weight. But overall we are worse because of the fact that we have twice as many premature babies as most of the Scandanavian countries.

Dan

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-----Original Message----- From: DoctorJoe@aol.com [mailto:DoctorJoe@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 2:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L Subject: Re: List

In a message dated 10/26/00 12:56:01 PM, el@ac.lisse.na writes:

<< >> If obstetricians and hospital birth were the determining factor, >> then why does the USA, which spends more per capita on health care >> than any other nation on the planet, *not* have the best perinatal >> morbidity and mortality rates? Why, in fact, does it rank quite >> far down, compared to other developed countries?

> Crack.

NONSENSE!!!!! (This is latin for, do you have figures for that?) >>

There is what has basically become an urban legend that babies are dying in the USA while in European countries, e.g. Scandanavian countries, the perinatal mortality rate is so low as to be negligeble. This (incorrect) view is generated by the RANKING of perinatal mortality among the countries, which puts the USA a little down the list behind said European countries. However,

the MAGNITUTE of the differences is so small, compared to the PNM in the third world and indeed the PNM in the developed countries just 50 and 100 years ago, as to be negligeble.

While it is alway advisable to look at others for hints on how to do it better, and that's what medical scientists do with the above data, it is NOT

legitimate to continue with the "US is so much worse than Denmark" type of argument. It's simply not true.

Joe P.

P.S. And I believe the argument has been made that a blonde, homogeneous Scandanavian patient population pales in comparison to our inner-city charity hospital type patients, no matter HOW much medicine you use on them.





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