Re: GYN: Continuous Combined Hormonal Therapy

From: Joanne Bulley (islesannie@yahoo.com)
Sun Oct 29 20:16:59 2000


Good start of a new thread !

If the patient says "No Horse Stuff" - I tell her there are lots of choices and make (depending on the patient) an aside comment that all the products start with natural sources - mammal or plant.

Unless there is some compelling reason I don't start with patches. A compelling reason may be someone who says I was always nauseous with OCP's - or I can't take pills - or some such.

The Activella, OrthPrefest and FemHrt are new enough to nbot be on many formularies - HMO or more traditional insurance. So those go to women who want one pill but want no horses.

I know the Ortho's reasons for designing the 3 day progesterone cycle but am not convinced we know enough yet about the on/off stuff and E/P reseptors and whether it makes a difference.

Many folks want the generic option which affects where I start.

As I tell the reps - I like having many options - since HRT does not yet have a test which will say Jane will do best on product/regimen A and Suzy will do best on product/regimen B.

PERSONALLY - I have tried most all of the straight estrogen options (oral and patch) I have had in the office. (I am 45.5 and S/P supra cervical abd hyst and RSO for endometriosis, menopause at 43 - three years after surg - should have had the L ovary out too...) I think the matrix Cenestin patented for its conjugated - not equine - estrogens does make a difference. So that is what I have been on for 6 months or so.

My $0.02 worth!

JB

At Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Garry Siegel wrote: >
>How do you decide on which product/regimen to use for those menopausal
>patients in whom you prescribe long term, continuous comibined therapy?
>Until recently, the only available product in one pill/patch was
>Prempro. Here are the ones that I know about.
>
>Prempro 2.5 (congugated estrogens 0.625 and MPA 2.5 mg)
>
>Prepro 5 (congutated estrogens 0.625 and MPA 5 mg)
>
>CombiPatch 50/140 (Estradiol 0.05 and Northinedrone Acetate [NETA]0.14)
>
>CombiPatch 50/250 (Estradiol 0.05 and NETA 0.25)
>
>FemHRT (Ethinyl Estradiol 0.05 and NETA 1 mg)
>
>Activella (17 beta Estradiol 1 mg and NETA 0.5 mg)
>
>Ortho Prefest (17ß-estradiol 1 mg/norgestimate 0.09 mg dosed on an
>intermittent basis—3 days off and 3 days on—in a continuously repeated
>pattern throughout therapy)
>
>Other--for example, I have used estrogen equivalent to 0.625 Premarin
>and Prometrium 100 mg/day.
>
>Anyway, I don't have an compelling reason to use one versus the other,
>and just wondered how others decided.
>
>Garry
>
>--
>Garry E. Siegel, M.D., F.A.C.O.G.
>Roswell, GA
>Private Practice
>

--
Joanne Bulley, MD, FACOG
Keene, NH, USA

Take time to smell the roses.





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