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Re: Philosophy of scienceFrom: DoctorJoe@aol.comTue Oct 24 20:12:27 2000
In a message dated 10/24/00 7:42:35 PM, zbnewton@mindspring.com writes: << This was so contrary to the foundations of mathematics as understood at the time that the greatest mathematician of the time, David Hilbert, turned on Godel with a vengence that put Godel in a mental institution. Years later, Godel would come out, take a look around, shake his head "uh-uh", and go back in. Hilbert eventually realized that Godel was right, but it was too late for Godel. Now if something as simple as fundamental as arithematic is so different from what we believed, isn't it possible that our "understanding" of "hard science" will continue to come under fundamental change, as has been the case throughout history? >> Yes, and the Hilberts of the world will continue to harass the Godels of the world. However, in "modern" civilization, it is my observation (and it's just my opinion - I could be wrong) that something else comes into the equation... MONEY, gelt, moola, dinero. In a more "modern" scenario, Hilbert realizes Godel is right, but Hilbert is so invested in (1) his professorship (2) his book royalties (3) his speaking circuit engagements (4) his stock market speculations (5) the chairmanship or deanship (6) yada yada yada, that Hilbert CAN'T let on that Godel is right (in fact, he may go into denial and never even "see" that Godel is right). So Godel continues to be hounded, reported to certification boards and licensure organizations, run back into the sanitarium, and he dies there, discredited, much like old Ignaz Semmelweiss (the guy who sided with midwives over doctors, remember?). And so it goes... Or if you rather, Hi Ho. Joe P.
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