Re: To All The Helpfuls floating around out there.......
From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Mon Aug 14 18:22:14 2000
a friend and colleague of mine who was my chief resident in the
seventies assures me that he never performed any "UP" epis in his
osteopathy training. something is amiss here.
art
At Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Braun, R. Daniel wrote:
>
> Having just returned from vacation and found this thread going, I feel that
>I want to say what my initial thoughts were when I read the first post. They
>were either this is not a physician or this is a physician with English as a
>tenth language.
>How does one cut an episiotomy "UP"?????? There are midline episiotomies and
>medio-lateral episiotomies, but there are no UP episiotomies.
>
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: logcabin777@excite.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>Sent: 8/12/00 8:10 AM
>Subject: Re: To All The Helpfuls floating around out there.......
>
>At Sat, 12 Aug 2000, Robert J. Woolley wrote:
>>
>>In message <200008120421.XAA18990@mail.medispecialty.com> writes:
>>> >
>>> >If you go in for platic surgery,you have a "new face",right?
>>
>>No, it's the same one, just altered.
>>
>>I am no more
>>> convinced of your position in the medical field,
>>
>>Ah, but with a minimum of online work, you could make a reasonable
>verification
>>that I'm an MD. For example, you could go to the AMA's web site and use
>the
>>"doctor finder" feature and see that I'm listed there. You could also
>go to
>>http://www.bhs.umn.edu and find my name and photograph, listed as one
>of the clinic's
>>physicians. Of course, I theoretically *could* have hacked into both
>the AMA's
>>web site and the University of Minnesota's web site and placed this
>phone
>>information there just to trip you up. But if that's your best
>conclusion, you
>>need more help than we can give you here.
>>
>>Now, what similar evidence do you offer that you are a medical
>professional? A
>>web search doesn't yield anything about you.
>>
>>seeing as you are
>>> rude,unhelpful,deliberatately looking to sound like you know what YOU
>are
>>> talking about.
>>
>>Oh, and you could also go to
>http://www.gentlebirth.org/format/woolley.html and
>>see if you think I know anything about episiotomies and their adverse
>outcomes.
>>But again, I could have just inserted my name onto somebody else's
>work, right?
>>
>> Forgive me,but I have better things to do than argue back and
>>> forth with you like we are 6 years old on the playground. Most
>doctors are
>>> grownups,and act as one.
>>
>>This is about the 4th post where you've said you're not going to talk
>anymore.
>>When, please, will that promise come true? Soon, I hope.
>>
>>I looked up your article at gentlebirth.org,and it was actually
>helpful.Thank You. I may have found my answer there. I suppose if you
>had referred me to the URL link the first time,rather than going on a
>Merry-Go-Round of debate,None of the bickering would have taken place.
>All I wanted was some helful information. I appreciate your knowledge on
>the subject,you could have helped me the first time,if you had directed
>me there.
>>
>--
>Chelsea Syzmanski,DO
>
--
art fougner, md
A series of 1000 cases begins with but a single anecdote.
