Re: Jehovah's witnesses
From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com)
Thu May 11 11:09:41 2000
that's why folks periodically ask God for forgiveness and promise to sin
no more.
art
At Thu, 11 May 2000, Richard Chudacoff, MD wrote:
>
>I agree with this. I have operated on adults whom are JW's, and never gave
>it a second thought. I like this argument:
>>why the patient is insisting on
>>no blood because the Bible says so, and why she engaged in pre-marital sex
>>(I'm assuming she's not married at age 15) which the Bible says
>>is a no-no
>
>Do you think I could put in the consent form 'Well since you already did
>this, then why not that?'
>
>Rick
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net]On Behalf Of Kevin
>>D. Dew MD
>>Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 5:15 AM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>>Subject: Re: Jehovah's witnesses
>>
>>I did my residency in Flint, MI.
>>
>>LOTS of Jehovah's Witnesses there.
>>
>>Besides not getting into a discussion about why the patient is insisting on
>>no blood because the Bible says so, and why she engaged in pre-marital sex
>>(I'm assuming she's not married at age 15) which the Bible says
>>is a no-no,
>>I'd give her what became our standard informed consent, to whit:
>>
>>I do not wish to receive blood products of any type.
>>This includes Rhogham, which might save my baby from a fatal condition:
>>This includes clotting factors which might prevent me from massive blood
>>loss.
>>This includes "units" of blood which might save my life.
>>
>>A couple of things might happen. When you tell a patient they MIGHT DIE!
>>without blood, sometimes they change their mind. OR they might sign the
>>waiver after which you are absolved.
>>
>>We had a couple of Jehovah's Witnesses leaders (Bishops?) give ;us a
>>seminar. They informed us that there would be no support from JW
>>"officials" in a lawsuit brought because a doctor did not give
>>blood i.e. if
>>a patient decided to sue.
>>
>>We did c-sections on numerous women with hemoglobins as low as 6 &
>>7. It is
>>really amazing how little they tended to bleed. Of course we worried, but
>>they all ended up doing remarkably well.
>>
>>Kevin Dew
>>Bardstown, KY
>>
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art fougner, md
A series of 1000 cases begins with but a single anecdote.
