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Re: Arrogance and Sensitivity (was Sterile too young) From: Robert J. Woolley (wooll005@tc.umn.edu) Wed Apr 19 06:47:25 2000 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Kaycnm@aol.com: "SterileTooSoon" Previous message: Robert J. Woolley: "Re: Sterile TOO Young" Maybe in reply to: Joanne Bulley, MD: "Arrogance and Sensitivity (was Sterile too young)" Next in thread: Robert J. Woolley: "Re: Arrogance and Sensitivity (was Sterile too young)" In message <200004190338.WAA06949@forum.obgyn.net> writes: > In case you haven't noticed - although we do have this big brain and > under ideal circumstances of upbringing etc we CAN rationally bypass > much emotional based thinking, the reality of being human is our frailty > both as individuals and as nations to make "bad" choices and get into > "bad" situations. So, you're agreeing that this woman made bad choices and got herself into bad situations? If so, then I don't see where you're disagreeing with me, since that's my point. > > LOGICALLY - yes abusive situations follow certain patterns that > could/should be indentifiable and the victim-to-be should/could remove > her/himself. Glad you agree. > > The REALITY - however - is that those insidious patterns of aberrant (if > you will...) human behavior get into vicious circles Yes. It's usually sort of a folie a deux, with psychopathology in both parties that causes them to choose to continue in this pattern. and SHIT happens > and as physicians / medical care givers - we need to be able to observe > and assist the victim in breaking the pattern. Because if we don't we > are allowing our patient to be in harm's way, among other issues. I don't disagree with this. > > This is not a question of what appears to be total logic (don't marry > that person, get ou, don't have sex, get a termination or give the baby > away) - it is a question of mucked up human psychology So you agree that this woman has (or at least had) "mucked up psychology." So again, I ask, wherein do you disagree with me? That's what I have been saying. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Woolley --------------------------------------------------------------------------- St. Paul, Minnesota "Fret not your gizzard over the unworthy." -- Brigham Young Next message: Kaycnm@aol.com: "SterileTooSoon" Previous message: Robert J. Woolley: "Re: Sterile TOO Young" Maybe in reply to: Joanne Bulley, MD: "Arrogance and Sensitivity (was Sterile too young)" Next in thread: Robert J. Woolley: "Re: Arrogance and Sensitivity (was Sterile too young)"

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