Re: Group B Beta strept screening

From: Robert J. Carpenter, Jr. MD (zygote@icsi.net)
Sat Jan 29 17:55:59 2000


> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:38:09 -0600
> Reply-to: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net
> From: eramirez@icepr.com (Efrain Ramirez)
> To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@forum.obgyn.net>
> Subject: Re: Group B Beta strept screening

You don't have to have a maternal death to have bad outcome. Pt with chorio treated with IV unisyn, acute anaphylactis with shock, decreased perfusion. Finally delivered by c/section for her infection/status of fetus. Also you haven't lived until you have anaphylactis in the field with a military unit. Dan has put some good commetns to this thread as to resistance issues. Also some data is being developed that suggests that the incidence of late onset GBS disease is increasing. If the tenative data I have seen, is expanded and duplicated it will critically focus attn on the question of whether we have ever done the correct thing with respect to this "disease" Remember George McCracken at UTSW had similar death rates from infectious disease when im PCN used to prophylaxis GBS neonatal disease, the bugs in the PCN group were atypical but deadly. The progress of medicine is sometimes not progress at all.

> Luis , you know that I pay attention to CDC and ACOG

guidelines--(see my > threads about VBAC's)but I have a mind use it sometimes :-) -- Have you > had a maternal death due to anaphyllaxis during labor? I haven't had a > case of neonatal septic shock due to one shot of ampicillin. What's the > real difference between been "right" in giving antibiotics to a lady who > had a baby who died from GBS and the one who had colonization--treated-- > and in the subsequent pregnancy she, at that magical moment at 35 weeks > she is "negative" it's "wrong" to give it? As I said --I am biased-- and > maybe wrong. >
> At Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Luis Sanchez-Ramos wrote:
> >
> >At Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Efrain Ramirez wrote:
> >
> >>>If a patient of mine has once a GBS positive culture from either vagina/rectal or urine I'll give her antibiotics in her 12 subsequent deliveries<<
> >
> >Efrain:
> >In other words, you won't pay attention to the CDC or ACOG guidelines!
> >If the patient dies from penicillin anaphylaxis or the neonate dies from
> >septic shock due to maternal antiobiotic administration, how would you
> >defend giving a patient antibiotics unecessarily? Just because something
> >"sounds" wrong that doesn't mean it is wrong. There are many thing like
> >this in medicine.
> >
> >--
> >Luis Sanchez-Ramos, MD
> >
>
> --
> "The things you learn after you know everything are the important ones"
>

R.J Carpenter, Jr. 6624 Fannin, #2720 Houston,TX 77030-2339 713-795-4600





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