Re: Who is MARY MORRIS HEIBERGER?

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Following is the reply I sent her:

At 12:03 PM 1/6/99 -0500, you wrote: >I asked questions which occurred to me in a straightforward manner. I
>would have directed the questions to an address designated to receive
>feedback on the site, rather than to a list, but found no such address.
>Perhaps I overlooked it.

It is in the "About Us" and "Contact Us" sections. On every message there is also this: Technical Problems: webmaster@obgyn.net so I can't imagine how hard you looked.

You'll notice that I referred to no one by name, >and made no personal attacks.

You also only asked questions that inferred the we were discriminating against women. Which is what everyone has been addressing. No one has ever said you made any personal attacks so I don't know why you bring this up.

Whatever the provocation, I don't plan to >indulge in any nor to respond to the one which you forwarded to me.

Why were the same questions you asked us, when directed at you and your CareerTalk Forum, construed as provocative. When you asked those same questions of the OBGYN.net Forum you considered them merely straightforward. I do not understand this line of reasoning?

>
>I sent my email to the list using my personal, and not my work address.
>I don't know what happened or how you got this one.

I searched your name in Alta Vista and found your career talk forum at: http://chronicle.com/jobs/v45/i02/4502talk.htm

I don't plan on any >further communication having anything to do with your site, so you
>probably won't write to me again, but if you feel the need to, please use
>mheiberger@yahoo.com, not this address.

I sent the questions about CareerTalk to the CareerTalk Feedback email. Will it get answered? >
>Sincerely,
>
>Mary Morris Heiberger
>

It seems that as a forum leader yourself (albeit a moderated/censored one as apposed to an open one) you would understand more about how to conduct yourself on a forum or on the internet in general. Althought you refuse to answer similar questions about your own website because you perceive them as provocative I will now, in a straightforward manner answer your questions:

>Why are 5 of 6 members of your editorial board men, when this site is
about women's health? Editorial Board members are selected from Ob/Gyns who volunteer to answer questions freely on the Women's Health Forum. Dr. Shanahan is the only female Ob/gyn who has consistently done this to date. We would of course welcome others with open arms.

>Why do you rely so heavily on pharmaceutical advertising?

We have 9 sponsors. Only one is a pharmaceutical company. SEE: http://www.obgyn.net/our_sponsors.htm We rely on sponsorship because we do not charge subscription rates but provide OBGYN.net free to the users utilizing an advertising model. The users prefer it this way.

>
>Why do you think that a forum is a place where consumers of medical care
ask questions of providers, but providers don't ask questions of women? The providers ask questions of the consumers all the time. What do you base this question on? >
>Why do you divide your site into view for "women" "medical professionals"
and "industry professionals" as if those were mutually exclusive categories? Because the information presented is vast and this was the most logical way to collate it. For example the links in the Medical Professionals sections are more technically oriented or about Ob/Gyn career opportunities. The Women & Patients section is geared for people researching disease and condition information on a more personal level. Industry has things like product marketing information. However all sections are wide open to anyone who wants to can visit them all . If someone is all three things then they should partake of all three sections, and do!

You seem to be trying to find a hidden agenda of the suppression of women on OBGYN.net where really nothing could be furthers from the truth. I am the Publisher and I am a woman, our Editor Ms. Nesbitt is a woman, our Production Manager Ms. Boulette is a woman, all our Featured Section Cordinators are women. Most of our users are women. The Co-Director of OBGYN.net Latina is a woman...I could go on and on. The fact that less women Ob/Gyns volunteer to participate in answering questions and writing articles is outside of my control. Any who do volunteer we welcome, and held to the same standards as the men.

The reason everyone resents your straightforward questions so much is because it is not the first time someone tried to use the Women's Health Forum to further their personal feminist agenda and everyone is sick of it. It puts off our good male and female physician volunteers and when they stop posting no one gets their health questions answered. This is a forum to discuss women's health issues not women's political issues. Your questions, from someone who should know better,are as inappropriate as you think my questions are to your CareerTalk forum. Because your forum is about finding careers not why the CareerTalk forum discriminates against women by having two women as the coordinators, or why you are trying to sell your book.

If you really just wanted straightforward answers to your questions and really couldn't find our address why didn't you write to the list and ask for the address to write directly to the editor? Why would anyone with knowledge of forum etiquette (you do run one of your own after all) post inappropriate (non-health related) questions to the entire list?

And lastly, why won't you answer the questions I asked you in a similar straightforward manner as I have done. Why don't you post them on CareerTalk and answer them there? I'm sure you won't because you don't want to clutter up the quality of CareerTalk with feminist clap trap, that's why. After all some men might want to buy your and Julia Miller Vick's book, The Academic Job Search Handbook (University of Pennsylvania Press) or go to you website The Cronical of Higher Education CareerTalk http://chronicle.com/jobs/v45/i02/4502talk.htm. And whenever they put your names or keywords in a search engine they will also get this message, archived on the OBGYN.net Women's Health Forum forever more, and see what a hypocrite you really are.

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Roberta F. Speyer
Publisher, OBGYN.net
http://www.obgyn.net
roberta.speyer@obgyn.net

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