WOMENS-HEALTH Messages for May, 1998: Re: Erdic for bigger breasts? (long reply)

Re: Erdic for bigger breasts? (long reply)

From: Angela (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sun, 17 May 1998 02:24:05 -0500 (CDT)

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At Thu, 14 May 1998, Tracy wrote: >
>I read a message posted at the Better Health Forum at Ivillage.com about
>this product, it has all natural ingredients, could it be safe and
>really work? They say that it may make you gain weight also, which I am
>dying to do beacuse I am ony 85lbs. at 5'2" and have always been small
>and small breasted(except for pregnancy of course, which I have done
>twice).

Rather than quote the entirety of this long post, let me try to answer just a few points, based on what I've learned after months of reading and posting to alt.support.breastfeeding and misc.kids.breastfeeding (where the folks who post there, collectively, probably know more about breasts than anybody has a right to know).

Please, forgive me a slightly sniping tone. It's not directed at you. It's directed at the absurdities of the claims in this 'ad'.

Do I think it's safe? Sure. Sounds like breakfast cereal, to me.

Do I think it will really work? No. They claim there are 'natural estrogens' in some of the ingredients (also known as phytoestrogens, such as may be found in soybeans, the way progesterone may be found in wild yams) but they can't possibly target the breasts without affecting other parts of the body too.

Since you've been pregnant twice, I suspect your breast tissue has already been 'developed' (something they claim their product does). But even a woman who has breastfed, when she quits nursing, will not have the kind of breasts they describe (firm, full, etc.) Also, if you're 5'2" and 85 lbs, you probably don't have a very high percentage of body fat. Since breasts have a lot of fat in them (note that overweight women tend to have larger breasts), you may be at your biological limit on breast size, unless you gain weight.

>Does this make sense, they have a website that I visited at
>http://www.bustout.com.

>Opinions please?

[snip]

>We're sorry that we cannot make any guarantees, as if you miss one day
>of taking the product, you must start over. We feel that, by making
>this product affordable, our clients will be understanding of our "no
>guarantee" policy. [snip]

If this is a hormone-type product, should missing a single day make you have to start over from the beginning, as missing a single Pill makes you at risk of ovulation/pregnancy? Now, if they mean the actual *growth* won't begin again for six weeks, I guess I can buy that, but it looks to me more like an effort to make sure you are VERY VERY RELIGIOUS ABOUT TAKING LOTS OF THEIR PILLS.

>
>The human breast possesses estrogen receptor sites which stimulate
>mammogenesis or the development of the mammary gland. These receptor
>sites are like a magnet attracting estrogen to them. The Erdic product
>has natural estrogenic properties from plant sources which promote
>healthy tissue and does not allow bad estrogen (from pesticides and
>petrol chemicals) to be taken up by the same receptor sites, thus
>protecting the breast tissue from toxic damage and promoting healthy
>development.

I don't know what to believe about this. I have been told it isn't good for the breast (or uterus/cervix) to be bombarded with estrogens all the time (which is why a GYN may advise artificially jumpstarting a period if you don't have one for 3 months, and are not pregnant).

I also don't know that it's a good idea to fiddle with your hormones when you're not under a physician's care. *If* this stuff contains phytoestrogens, then it will probably affect more than just your breasts.

>Erdic has been developed to feed, develop and beautify female breasts.
>This development will commence in the first four to six weeks. The
>breasts will then become fuller and firmer. You will have to determine
>yourself how long you wish to continue with the cure after this period.
>The growth process will stop the moment you stop the cure.

I object to the term 'cure'. :P Small breasts are not a disease, and this is not a medical product. They should not be making a claim to cure anything, with a food product. The FDA has laws about this.

It is >therefore recommended that you do not temporarily stop the cure, as the
>growth process will have to be re-initiated when you begin again. If
>you wish to continue with the cure you should have an adequate supply of
>tablets at home.

Error: the body doesn't work like that, as far as I know. Doctors, please feel free to educate/correct me on this.

Translation: we want to sell you a *lot* of these, and make sure you keep taking them for a long time.

[snip list of ingredients, noting that 'active herbs' doesn't tell you what kind of herbs they use.]

Me? I wouldn't touch them with a ten-foot barge pole, not even for larger breasts. No guarantees, and too many questions. I'm sorry to have to come down so hard on this, if you were feeling hopeful about it, but I really do think it's bogus.

I'll point the newsgroup people at this site, and get their opinions, and post further if anything really interesting comes up.

--
--angela

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