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Re: Keepsake 3DFrom: DuBose, Terry (DuboseTerryJ@uams.edu)Wed May 26 15:03:06 2004
That is a real possibility, and I would not blame them either. It would be worth it just to get away from Call, much less controlling your own schedule. As an educator, it is less of a concern for me... again my bias... more students for me. On the other hand, if we restrict real sonographers from entering this kind of entertainment business on an ethical basis, are we not abandoning the field to the "uneducated, unskilled, and unwashed"? Given enough time they will develop the psychomotor skills to acquire "pretty pictures" of the face and/or genitals, but will not know a uterine synechia from an amniotic band, and won't care because it is not "medical"; and the public will believe they have had a sonogram. This is the greatest danger in my view... these entrepreneurs are not necessarily going to be very vocal about what they are or aren't telling their unsuspecting customers. Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM Assistant Professor & Director Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, CHRP 4301 West Markham St. Mail Slot #563 Little Rock, Arkansas, 72205 USA 501-686-6510 DuBoseTerryJ@UAMS.edu http://www.io.com/~dubose/ http://www.uams.edu/chrp/dms/default.asp http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- --------------------------------------------------------------- From: ultrasound@obgyn.net [mailto:ultrasound@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Allen Worrall Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 2:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND Subject: Re: Keepsake 3D One of the potential major problems with certification and control (thus making this a legal enterprise) would be the loss of trained and skilled sonographers to the medical imaging community. It is likely, if this type of practice were more or less given approval, that many excellent sonographers would opt for the regular hours, lack of night call, and probable higher pay. I would not blame them. Allen Joseph A Worrall MD RDMS The Fairbanks Clinic 1919 Lathrop Street, Suite 100 Fairbanks, AK 99701 jworrall@alaska.net http://www.obgynsono.com
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>From what I hear at SDMS & AIUM, I think most of the objections
>From the professional organizational point of view there seems The SDMS, AIUM, and SVU (I believe) have come out officially opposed to non-medical uses, and in most cases I think they are also against the self-referral "screening exam" traveling shows that move around the country. Their opposition, in addition to the [weak] Bioeffects argument, is due to the public believing that a sonogram is a sonogram regardless of who performs it. If the unsuspecting public goes for a baby picture session, is not told there are or are not any problems, will they then believe that all is OK and not get proper prenatal care as a result?
>From my point of view, I find the non-medical sonographic Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS, FSDMS, FAIUM Assistant Professor & Director Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, CHRP 4301 West Markham St. Mail Slot #563 Little Rock, Arkansas, 72205 USA 501-686-6510 DuBoseTerryJ@UAMS.edu http://www.io.com/~dubose/ http://www.uams.edu/chrp/dms/default.asp http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- --------------------------------------------------------------- From: ultrasound@obgyn.net [mailto:ultrasound@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of DoctorJoe@aol.com Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 7:07 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND Subject: Re: Keepsake 3D In a message dated 5/24/04 14:55:45, djberck@yahoo.com writes: If such a scan makes the parents subjectively happier about the pregnancy, more bonded etc., isn't that a sufficiently good reason? Isn't that a better reason than a lot of nonsense reasons we use every day for doing ultrasound like, "doptone not in the room but scanner is", "it's easier to find the FH this way" etc.? And remember, the average german woman gets like 8 or 9 scans per pregnancy. They don't seem worse off, and their medical system isn't so market driven. . . I would think a "bonding scan" would be more beneficial in the long run than the usual (often) "Medicaid scans" which are done for "high risk" criteria, but coincidentally just as many as Medicaid will allow, no more, no less. I think the old lawyer's adage, "follow the money," will answer the question for you. If it's really not "dangerous," and I think we all have to agree it's really not, comparatively speaking, then who is objecting, and WHY? Joe P. ------------------------------------ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any ------------------------------------ attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may -- ------------------------------------ contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
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