Re: Conjoined twins with different genders
From: David Nyberg (nyberg@u.washington.edu)
Thu Oct 16 13:53:56 2003
Wolfgang
you should definitely get together with my wife, Viv Souter, who was the author of that paper in the NEJM. She is putting together a series of similar cases and also working on some related topics with twins.
regards,
David
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Wolfgang Moroder, M.D. wrote:
> Art, the monochorionic pregnancy with discordant sex did NOT originate
> from ART: that is it what distiguishes my case from the one described in
> the NEJM. I know, I should write a letter to the journal.
> Wolfgang
>
> At Thu, 16 Oct 2003, art fougner, md wrote:
> >
> >Wolfgang -
> >
> >is your case associated with Assisted Repro Technology or au naturel
> >(sp)?
> >
> >art
> >
> >At Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Wolfgang Moroder, M.D. wrote:
> >>
> >>OK, let' s get more serious. I am working on a case of monochorionic
> >>twins with discordant gender, discordant karyotype on fibroblast culture
> >>and mixed blood (both karyotypes - XX,XY) in both's blood lymphocytes at
> >>birth - that is the evidence of a common placental circulation, the
> >>evidence that the twins were monochorionic, besides sonographic evidence
> >>of monochorionicity by a first trimeste scan. Such a case has been
> >>published by Souter in the NEJM : Volume 349:154-158 July 10, 2003
> >>Number 2
> >>http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/349/2/154
> >>There must be an infinite range of variation in nature - just look in
> >>the animal species. Ciao Wolfgang
> >>
> >>At Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Mireille Bonneau wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Ça, pour être grand, il est grand!!!!
> >>>Un gage......
> >>>
> >>>Le 14/10/03 21:54, « Philippe Jeanty, MD, PhD » <jeanty@TheFetus.net> a
> >>>écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> Grand cornichon :)
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: ultrasound@obgyn.net [mailto:ultrasound@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of
> >>>> Philippe Coquel
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 2:22 PM
> >>>> To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
> >>>> Subject: Re: Conjoined twins with different genders
> >>>>
> >>>> sorry
> >>>> I didn't know
> >>>> To all recipients of list Ultrasound list: delete my message
> >>>> :-)))))))))))))))))))
> >>>
>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Philippe Jeanty, MD, PhD" <jeanty@TheFetus.net>
> >>>> To: "Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND" <ultrasound@dns.obgyn.net>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 9:14 PM
> >>>> Subject: RE: Conjoined twins with different genders
> >>>>
> >>>>> Shuut it was supposed to become a case of the week !!!!!!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: ultrasound@obgyn.net [mailto:ultrasound@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of
> >>>>> Philippe Coquel
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 2:01 PM
> >>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND
> >>>>> Subject: Conjoined twins with different genders
> >>>>>
> >>>>> During the Isuog meeting, somebody gave photographs of conjoined twins
> >>>> with
> >>>>> different genders to Ph Jeanty
> >>>>> Philippe, could you send more informations about this case
> >>>>> Ph
> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "art fougner, md" <evsono@pipeline.com>
> >>>>> To: "Multiple recipients of list ULTRASOUND" <ultrasound@dns.obgyn.net>
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:47 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Conjoined twins?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Conjoined Twins with different genders? Doubt it. Papers here are
> >>>>>> talking about a set of pre-op conjoined twins from the Philippines -
> >>>>>> cephalopagus as were the Egyptian twins.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> art
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Ann Polin wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Forgive me if there is something that I am missing, but does anyone
> >>>> know
> >>>>>>> anything about the Greek conjoined twins that were joined at the temple
> >>>>>>> and just separated? According to the article on CNN (see the website
> >>>> at:
> >>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/12/italy.twins.ap/index.html
> >>>>>>> they were a boy and a girl.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Ann Polin, BS, RDMS
> >>>>>>> Program Chair
> >>>>>>> Diagnostic Ultrasound, R130D
> >>>>>>> Bellevue Community College
> >>>>>>> 3000 Landerholm Circle SE
> >>>>>>> Bellevue, WA 98007-6484
> >>>>>>> USA
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> >>>>>>> Fax: +1 (425) 564-4193
> >>>>>>> Email: apolin@bcc.ctc.edu
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> art fougner, md
> >>>>>> ich bin ein New Yorker
> >>>>>>
> >>>mirbonneau@wanadoo.fr S1 SCF 93 Neuilly-Plaisance
> >>>secrétaire de l'AGEOL
> >>
> >>--
> >>Wolfgang Moroder, MD
> >>Prenatal Unit
> >>Bolzano General Hospital Italy
> >>
> >--
> >art fougner, md
> >ich bin ein New Yorker
> >
>
> --
> Wolfgang Moroder, MD
> Prenatal Unit
> Bolzano General Hospital Italy
>
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