Re: Objectionable mailings
From: Terry J DuBose (tjdubose@juno.com)
Sun Apr 27 15:20:05 2003
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Diana, I understand your feeling sorry for folks who need more
information, you are an empathetic member of the health care team.
But, this isn't the perfect place for folks needing more information to
look. Women's Heath, Pregnancy & Birth, Breast Care, and other sections
of OBGYN.net were set up for access by the general public. Ultrasound
has always been set up for medical professionals to discuss the use of
sonography in OB/GYN. The discussion here is not intended to be for
nonprofessional. If the nonprofessional, general public discussion is
kept on the public forums, then other folks who have similar questions
will benefit from the discussion.
Thanks for your participation.
Terry J DuBose, M.S., RDMS
Little Rock Arkansas USA
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2003 11:57:34 -0500 Diana Ross
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<thewavenewsletter@yahoo.com> writes:
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I always feel sorry for those folks who send messages trying to find out
more about their ultrasound exam. Many of them simply don't understand
what they are being told by their doctors, or they were too nervous to
absorb all the information. They are often afraid to annoy their
doctors, so they go everywhere to find information. The web is the
perfect place to look, and I don't blame them for trying to find out
whatever they can.
They need reassurance about what their doctor has told them. I generally
don't answer them, but I don't think they should be stopped from being
able to ask. If someone wants to answer them and has the authority to
answer them well, I think it is fine.
The problem emails are those spam things. I get them in my regular email
mailboxes too. It's just part of the internet experience right now.
Terry J DuBose <tjdubose@juno.com> wrote:
Dear Sue, I am probably as good as any to ask about this... me and the
folks in Austin... Bruce, Roberta, et al. This issue first came up soon
after OBGYN-L went on the web. Unfortunately, as you say "Whoever sends
them is getting sneakier so it's difficult to filter them out with
software rules". Bruce and crew try to filter them, but they are
overwhelming.
The problem is not unique to OBGYN.net, but exists on any large,
successful, OPEN ACCESS, list. We discussed going behind a wall and
charging a fee about 5 years ago, but that adds to the expense and limits
access. The problem is worse now. It is difficult enough with patients
who should be seeing a medical person rather than asking for advice long
distance, but the SPAM is truly obnoxious.
Legislation has been proposed in Washington (not that all SPAM originates
in the USA), but so far the "business interests" like the Chambers of
Commerce organization have opposed limiting SPAM because they call it
"advertising". With our current administration being a corporate
culture, I do not expect to see much support for limiting any kind of
commerce. Please don't blame the American people, most of us did not
vote for Bush... and more will not soon. My apologies to any Republicans
here, and I don't mean to introduce polemics to an ultrasound discussion
group, but this is becoming a serious problem. Until the corporate
culture currently in control of the USA's administration says stop, I see
little hope.
If anyone has suggestions or wants to pay for a lobbying group to oppose
the Chambers of Commerce, et al... please suggest what to do.
Sorry I don't have better answers...
Peace, Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS
Chair, Ultrasound section OBGYN.net
Little Rock, Arkansas USA
On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 09:46:18 +1000 "Sue Davies" <sue@aiu.edu.au> writes:
Excellence in practical education...... Programs
built to suit the individual.......
Australian Institute of Ultrasound
P.O.Box 434 Mermaid Beach
Queensland 4218 Australia
Phone 61 07 5526 6655
Fax 61 07 55266041
Dear Terry
I'm not sure if you're the correct person to be asking but is there any
way we can stop the increasing numbers of thoroughly objectionable emails
we are receiving via obgyn? Whoever sends them is getting sneakier so
it's difficult to filter them out with software rules.
Cheers
Sue
Sue Davies
Program Director
Australian Institute of Ultrasound
Diana Ross, RT, RDMS
Editor, The WAVE~~~Online Newsletter for Sonographers of All Disciplines
http://thewave.www.50megs.com
>
writes:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid">
<DIV>I always feel sorry for those folks who send messages trying to find out
more about their ultrasound exam. Many of them simply don't understand
what they are being told by their doctors, or they were too nervous to absorb
all the information. They are often afraid to annoy their doctors, so
they go everywhere to find information. The web is the perfect place to
look, and I don't blame them for trying to find out whatever they can.
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>They need reassurance about what their doctor has told them. I
generally don't answer them, but I don't think they should be stopped from
being able to ask. If someone wants to answer them and has the authority
to answer them well, I think it is fine.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The problem emails are those spam things. I get them in my regular
email mailboxes too. It's just part of the internet experience right
now.<BR><BR><B><I>Terry J DuBose <tjdubose@juno.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<META content=FrontPage.Editor.Document name=ProgId>
<DIV>Dear Sue, I am probably as good as any to ask about this... me and the
folks in Austin... Bruce, Roberta, et al. This issue first came up
soon after OBGYN-L went on the web. Unfortunately, as you say
"<FONT face=Arial color=#000080>Whoever sends them is getting sneakier so
it's difficult to filter them out with software rules</FONT>". Bruce
and crew try to filter them, but they are overwhelming. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The problem is not unique to OBGYN.net, but exists on any large,
successful, OPEN ACCESS, list. We discussed going behind a wall and
charging a fee about 5 years ago, but that adds to the expense and limits
access. The problem is worse now. It is difficult enough
with patients who should be seeing a medical person rather than asking for
advice long distance, but the SPAM is truly obnoxious. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Legislation has been proposed in Washington (not that all SPAM
originates in the USA), but so far the "business interests" like the
Chambers of Commerce organization have opposed limiting SPAM because they
call it "advertising". With our current administration being a
corporate culture, I do not expect to see much support for limiting any kind
of commerce. Please don't blame the American people, most of us
did not vote for Bush... and more will not soon. My apologies to any
Republicans here, and I don't mean to introduce polemics to an ultrasound
discussion group, but this is becoming a serious problem. Until the
corporate culture currently in control of the USA's administration says
stop, I see little hope.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If anyone has suggestions or wants to pay for a lobbying group to
oppose the Chambers of Commerce, et al... please suggest what to do.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sorry I don't have better answers... </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Peace, Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS</DIV>
<DIV>Chair, Ultrasound section OBGYN.net</DIV>
<DIV>Little Rock, Arkansas USA</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 09:46:18 +1000 "Sue Davies" <<A
href="mailto:sue@aiu.edu.au">sue@aiu.edu.au</A>> writes:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid">
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left><A
href="http://www.aiu.edu.au/">
<MARQUEE
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; COLOR: #ffffff; PADDING-TOP: 0px; FONT-STYLE: italic"
bgColor=#000080>Excellence in practical
education......
Programs built to suit the individual.......</MARQUEE></A></P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left><FONT
color=#000080><B><A href="http://www.aiu.edu.au/"><IMG height==
92 hspace=0
src="cid:138174223@23042003-371E" width0 align=right border=0></A><FONT
size=4>Australian Institute of Ultrasound</FONT></B><BR>P.O.Box 434
Mermaid Beach<BR>Queensland 4218 Australia <BR>Phone 61 07 5526
6655<BR>Fax 61 07 55266041</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left> </P>
<HR>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left><SPAN
class8174223-23042003><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>Dear
Terry</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left><SPAN
class8174223-23042003><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>I'm not sure if
you're the correct person to be asking but is there any way we can stop
the increasing numbers of thoroughly objectionable emails we are receiving
via obgyn? Whoever sends them is getting sneakier so it's difficult to
filter them out with software rules.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left><SPAN
class8174223-23042003><FONT face=Arial
color=#000080>Cheers</FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN class8174223-23042003>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="French Script MT" color=#000080
size=7>Sue</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000080><STRONG><EM>Sue
Davies</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000080><STRONG><EM>Program
Director</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000080><U><STRONG><EM>Australian
Institute of Ultrasound</EM></STRONG></U></FONT></DIV></SPAN>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left><FONT face=Arial
color=#000080></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=left> </P>
<DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Diana Ross, RT, RDMS
<BR><BR><A href="http://thewave.www.50megs.com">Editor, The WAVE~~~Online
Newsletter for Sonographers of All Disciplines </A><BR><BR><A
href="http://thewave.www.50megs.com">http://thewave.www.50megs.com</A>
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