Re: Intermittent auscultation --> Hired Guns
From: Braun, R. Daniel (rbraun@iupui.edu)
Tue Feb 23 04:32:33 1999
It would be nice to know who you are.
As to who am I? I have been on this list for over 2 years and am known both
online and off to many of its members.
R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG
Clinical Professor
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology
Indiana U. School of Medicine
Indianapolis, IN
-----Original Message-----
From: jcoch@ran.net [SMTP:jcoch@ran.net]
Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 7:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Intermittent auscultation --> Hired Guns
Dr. Daniel Braun;
Who are you? Were are you? How do we know you're really from
Indiana?
Send us your picture, driver's license and social security numbers,
combination to your locker and bank account number. What difference
does it make who FBailey is, as long as his contributions to this
forum
are valuable and truthful. His accusations have been validated by
other
members of this forum. Now you probably want to know who I am.
JCochran
At Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Braun, R. Daniel wrote:
>
>Dr. Bailey
>Who are you?
>Where are you?
>
>You have not responded to these questions before ands if you don't
now, I
>will not respond to any of your posts and I suggest that no other
members of
>our list do either.
>
>R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG
>Clinical Professor
>Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology
>Indiana U. School of Medicine
>Indianapolis, IN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flbailey@court.net [SMTP:flbailey@court.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 10:37 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: Intermittent auscultation --> Hired
Guns
>
> Dr. Kates:
>
> Obviously since you were a former "fellow" of Dr. Schifrin,
you're
> biased. I may be wrong with regard the location where he
finished
>his
> residency, but I know he was kicked out or dismissed from
two
>residency
> programs. At one of these programs he was considered one of
the
>worst
> residents ever to work there. Do you know the number of
times he
>has
> testified for the defense versus the plaintiff? You probably
have no
> idea. Dr. Schifrin is a well known "hired gun". I'm
surprised you
>did
> not know this until now. If my facts are wrong, please
correct us:
> where did he begin his residency in ob-gyn and for how many
programs
>was
> he employed as a resident? How many times has he testified
for the
> defense and how many times for the plaintiff? I want facts
that can
>be
> confirmed, not just numbers! Perhaps you do not know him as
well as
>you
> think. As for his publications: I personally think he has
published
>a
> bunch of grabage. FL BAILEY
>
> At Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Richard B. Kates, MD wrote:
> >
> >Dear Dr. Bailey,
> >You do not know Dr. Schifrin; your facts re his training
are
>erroneous; he
> >did not finish out west; he testifies equally for plaintiff
and
>defense,
> >and, as a matter of fact, is highly sought by the defense
bar;
>shame on Dr.
> >Freeman for his comments publicly re Dr. Schifrin...as Dr.
Freeman,
>I
> >believe, also testifies for plaintiff as well as defense,
and is, I
>believe,
> >also an honorable man, as is Dr. Schifrin. Dr. Schifrin is
also
>responsible
> >for a number of the studies that form the basis of your
practice.
>He has
> >stated, prior to Dr. Phelan, many of the same relationships
between
>certain
> >FHR tracing findings, and outcome. Before you slay the
dragon, have
>your
> >facts straight, or you too are malicious.
> >Richard B. Kates, MD
> >Perinatology
> >Former fellow of Dr. Schifrin
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: FL Bailey <flbailey@court.net>
> >To: Multiple recipients of list <ob-gyn-l@talk.obgyn.net>
> >Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 7:02 PM
> >Subject: Re: Intermittent auscultation --> Hired Guns
> >
> >>At Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Efrain Ramirez MD wrote:
> >>>
> >>>I met Barry Schiffrin many, many years ago, great
mind...a
>pitty..I am
> >>>really sorry if he is doing it...shame!!
> >>
> >>Dr. Ramirez:
> >>
> >>This individual may have a "great mind" in your opinion.
However,
>his
> >>past does not coincide with that characterization. I know
for a
>fact
> >>that he was dismissed from two residency programs (as a
>resident!). One
> >>of the programs was up north and the other down south
(Miami). He
> >>subsequently finished out west (California). Initially he
built
>his
> >>reputation on the topic of fetal monitoring (when most
>obstetricians
> >>weren't versed on the subject). I have heard rumors that
he was
>also
> >>dismissed from more than one program (as an attending)and
is
>currently
> >>in private practice and serving as a malicious plaintiff's
expert
> >>witness. Would he qualify as a fraud? Supposedly, ACOG
keeps a
>list of
> >>"hired guns". He is high on the list along with James
O'Leary
>(now
> >>that's another story!) FL BAILEY
> >>
