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Re: Intermittent auscultation From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com) Thu Feb 18 06:25:14 1999 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Myer S. Bornstein: "Re: Intermittent auscultation" Previous message: Deborah J. Wage FNP, CNM: "Re: Intermittent auscultation" Next in thread: Myer S. Bornstein: "Re: Intermittent auscultation" Reply: Myer S. Bornstein: "Re: Intermittent auscultation" Reply: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: Intermittent auscultation" Reply: Efrain Ramirez MD: "Re: Intermittent auscultation" agree with dan re: one on one nursing. this was a requirement in the published trials and i know of NO hospital in the NY area which can provide one on one nursing in a crowded labor suite. without satisfying this requirement, IA would result in a risk manager's nightmare. with regard to who NEEDS monitoring, besides VBACS, all receiving oxytocin should have EFM since the dublin trial showed reduced seizures in the monitored group. the FAT, altho promising, has not been studied in a randomized trial - perhaps it should be. finally, when barry shiffrin was asked who needs EFM, his reply was "all those who are gonna have problems." since we rarely don't know ahead of time who those patients will be, i leave to your discretion how to proceed. good luck! Art At Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Myer S. Bornstein wrote: > >The physicians are Herbert Sandmire and Robert DeMott. They are from Green >Bay Wisconsin. Their section rate is less than one-half of the US rates. I >have heard them speak. Have some convincing arguments, Multiple papers on >the subject. > I don't think all the answers are in as yet. >Myer > >-- >Myer S. Bornstein, M.D., CPE, FACOG >Director Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology >Morton Hospital and Medical Center >Taunton, MA 02780 > >mborn@massmed.org >U.S. Representative Massachusetts OBGYN.NET > >-----Original Message----- >From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Jane >Helwig, MD >Sent: February 18, 1999 7:37 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Intermittent auscultation > >Could someone give me a reference for the claims of "the guys from Green >Bay"? MedLine isn't indexed by home town! I am not familiar with >his/their publications. > >Betsy, sounds like a classic case of throwing out the baby with the >bathwater. Much as I hate the way FHM ties the mom to the box, and >although I realize that all the studies showing a benefit have major >flaws, it would take more than a committee to make me give it up. > >Seems to me the plaintiffs' lawyers would be licking their chops. > >Jane > >-- >Jane Helwig, MD >Private practice >Nassawadox, VA > -- art fougner, md SonoScan/Genetic Sciences forest hills, ny evsono@pipeline.com Next message: Myer S. Bornstein: "Re: Intermittent auscultation" Previous message: Deborah J. Wage FNP, CNM: "Re: Intermittent auscultation" Next in thread: Myer S. Bornstein: "Re: Intermittent auscultation" Reply: Myer S. Bornstein: "Re: Intermittent auscultation" Reply: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: Intermittent auscultation" Reply: Efrain Ramirez MD: "Re: Intermittent auscultation"

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