Re: At-term sacroiliac motion and shoulder dystocia

From: Ron Helm (ronhelm@ronhelm.seanet.com)
Tue Jul 8 14:05:13 1997


Well put, let us hear it from Dr. RCT since he was frequently referenced in this diatribe. It would seem that very few deliveries would not have shoulder dystocia if a 4 cm displacement of the sacrum actually occurred. Ron

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> From: JD Stewart,MD <jeff-stewart@uokhsc.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <ob-gyn-l@talk.obgyn.net>
> Subject: Re: At-term sacroiliac motion and shoulder dystocia
> Date: Tuesday, July 08, 1997 10:28 AM
>
> At Mon, 07 Jul 1997, Todd Gastaldo wrote:
> >a very long, well referenced post concerning sacroiliac movement with
supine or semisitting positioning at delivery.
> >
> >Amazing any of us arrive alive, isn't it?
>
> Perhaps this would be a proper question to be answered aboard the MIR or
> the space shuttle...
>
> It would be interesting to see the effects of weightlessness not only on
> the sacrum during delivery, but on the birthing process as well...
>
> One could picture the opposing forces at work, mother and child spinning
> freely,, tethered by the umbilicus, each orbiting amongst the sea of
> amnion....
>
> The "Blue Danube"  plays in the background, as in Kubrick's 2001..
>
> Your points are well taken, and you provide an excellent example of
> pseudoscience at its best.  To apply a number (however speculative)
> makes it "scientific", to publish and cite same makes it "official", and
> to polish it and put it on the Web makes it available and
> marketable...but not necessarily so...  GIGO (p<.05).
>
> Question...if the natural state of being at term allows for such a
> pronounced degree of sacral deflection, how can term pregnant women
> walk, climb stairs, lie down or squat for ANY length of time without
> completely falling apart ???
>
> The mysteries of motherhood...
>
> >
>
> >
>
> --
> Wondering instead of working through lunch today...




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