Re: episiotomy and shoulder dystocia wasits effects on perineal body/external anal sphinctor

From: Harvey S. Marchbein, M.D. (hmarchbein@worldnet.att.net)
Sat Apr 26 23:14:58 1997


At Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Garry E. Siegel, M.D. wrote: >
>Garry the chickenhearted (right out of Monty Python) does not believe
>that an episiotomy makes a difference in a shoulder dystocia unless you
>need it to get your hand in the vaginal to maneuver. Usually, that
>would be in a primip, but not in a multip.
>
>However, I will always cut one (probably a small one), so the
>prosecuting attorney can't harass me as to why I didn't.
>
>I'm being honest on this one--who needs the aggrevation of not making an
>epis and then wondering!

Fear not, o' wise one! Remember, the lion in "The Wizaed of Oz" was brave but needed a badge of bravery. May you never have one by some slime-bucket attorney asking yo why you didn't do that "unnecessary" episiotomy. Would that we could all get four hands into the vagina of a patient having an 11 pounder like Margo! I agree with those who said episiotomies should be reserved for times when you need the room for manipulations. Definitions aside, if I don't need to get my hands in and do a rotation (for which my *petite* hands need extra room), I don't usually call it shoulder dystocia. (Refer back to my heart pumpin' post).

--
Harvey

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