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Re: Forces upon forceps application From: Raymond Stephen (Stephen.Raymond@dhhs.tas.gov.au) Sun Nov 23 23:28:43 2008 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Raymond Stephen: "Re: Forces upon forceps application" Previous message: allanho@aol.com: "Omental Nodules on CT" In reply to: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: Forces upon forceps application" Next in thread: R. Daniel Braun: "Re: Forces upon forceps application" Sorry to disagree, but a failed vacuum is always worth an attempt with forceps unless you were really not sure, as you began, that you were doing the right thing - and that should never be the case. Steve -----Original Message----- From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@ n.net] On Behalf Of Dr Eberhard W Lisse Sent: Sunday, 23 November 2008 5:51 PM To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L Subject: Re: Forces upon forceps application My experience is that if Vacuum doesn't work, it's never the vector or the application, it's always the indication :-)-O. I don't have evidence but I was told that a failed vacuum means a C/S and *NEVER* a forceps. el On 23 Nov 2008, at 01:05 , Garry E. Siegel, M.D. wrote: > El: > > You're right, and I was very cautious and thought about the situation > before proceeding. > > She was ROA +3 and I felt it would deliver vaginally. I was quite > surprised when I did not achieve any station with the first vacuum > pull. > I then switched and it was relatively easy. Perhaps my vector was > wrong > on the vacuum, or my application not as good as it should have been. > > Garry CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE AND DISCLAIMER The information in this transmission may be confidential and/or protected by legal professional privilege, and is intended only for the person or persons to whom it is addressed. If you are not such a person, you are warned that any disclosure, copying or dissemination of the information is unauthorised. If you have received the transmission in error, please immediately contact this office by telephone, fax or email, to inform us of the error and to enable arrangements to be made for the destruction of the transmission, or its return at our cost. No liability is accepted for any unauthorised use of the information contained in this transmission. If the transmission contains advice, the advice is based on instructions in relation to, and is provided to the addressee in connection with, the matter mentioned above. Responsibility is not accepted for reliance upon it by any other person or for any other purpose. Next message: Raymond Stephen: "Re: Forces upon forceps application" Previous message: allanho@aol.com: "Omental Nodules on CT" In reply to: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: Forces upon forceps application" Next in thread: R. Daniel Braun: "Re: Forces upon forceps application"

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