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Re: Still another GOOD DAY From: verner nellsch (vnellsch@eastex.net) Wed Mar 5 19:39:00 2008 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: dmecnm@aol.com: "Re: OT: Another GOOD Day" Previous message: AllanHo@aol.com: "Re: Actinomyces and IUDs" In reply to: Ina May Gaskin: "Still another GOOD DAY" Next in thread: Ina May Gaskin: "Re: Still another GOOD DAY" Reply: Ina May Gaskin: "Re: Still another GOOD DAY" you were irresponsible. both you and the mother were selfish in promoting a non surgical birth rather than the safe alternative. you were inconsiderate of whoever would take this patient at the hospital if things had gone wrong. your euphoria was the sensation of having gambled with a baby and mother and your colleagues, and winning the bet. i hear about a case like this one and i wonder what makes a provider do such a thing, knowing that a surgical team could make all the difference. we demand safety and accountability. you may be glad that you learned breech delivery today, but you should not be. vnellsch >----- Original Message ----- From: "Ina May Gaskin" <inamaygaskin@gmail.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L" <ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:14 PM Subject: Still another GOOD DAY > > Mine actually happened on the 3rd, the due date of 25 year old primip, > whose mom was a client of mine for 2 of her kids. They asked for a late > transfer to my care because of a persistent complete breech lie. External > version by ob.gyn was tried but failed. I also tried and failed. Next, 2 > of my ob.gyn consultants tried and failed. But they gave their blessings > to a home birth for this young woman. So we did it. Her mom, BTW, is also > an MD (FP who does ob and c- secs). Outcome: 8 hour labor, 8.5 lb. boy, > intact perineum, Apgars 7 & 9 (1 and 5 min.). Call us lucky, > irresponsible, etc., but we're all pretty euphoric still, and I'd do it > again for a mom like this if she needed me to. It can be fun not to > stitch. He wasn't even a tight squeeze after he got about 5 oz. meconium > out. Mom said she wasn't impressed with pain, except for her back and it > was so satisfying when he came out. I'm so glad I learned to assist at > these when it was still possible. I hope that it will someday be possible > again. Baby latched 35 minutes later. > > Greetings to all, > > Ina May Next message: dmecnm@aol.com: "Re: OT: Another GOOD Day" Previous message: AllanHo@aol.com: "Re: Actinomyces and IUDs" In reply to: Ina May Gaskin: "Still another GOOD DAY" Next in thread: Ina May Gaskin: "Re: Still another GOOD DAY" Reply: Ina May Gaskin: "Re: Still another GOOD DAY"

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