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Re: Episiotomy question From: Ina May Gaskin (midwifeim@earthlink.net) Mon Feb 18 07:33:39 2008 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Ina May Gaskin: "Re: Episiotomy question" Previous message: Bernard Cristalli: "Re: Placenta Accreta" In reply to: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: Episiotomy question" Next in thread: Meenan, Anna: "Re: Episiotomy question" I know you didn't attack me directly, el, but I thought that you might possibly have missed some of the virtues and advantages that home birth can bring to maternity care. :-) Obviously, it's not for everyone, but there was good reason for such a movement to start in the US 35 years or so ago. Ina May Could I really work for a little stretch at your hospital in Namibia? On 17 Feb 2008, at 20:36, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote: > In May, > > please carefully review my posts and you will find that I never > attacked you directly :-)-O > > I don't do forceps either. The odd vacuum, perhaps... But that's > the Eminence Based > "Men of Steel" discussion coming up here regularly. > > greetings, el > > On Feb 18, 2008, at 05:03, Ina May Gaskin wrote: > >> Steve and Anna, could you let me know the details of your cases >> for my registry (offline)? >> >> No proctoepisotomies yet. In my shoulder dystocia cases, the >> perineum has usually been relaxed. I thought this was because the >> head is usually born so slowly in these cases and because it sits >> there longer than usual. >> >> I agree with Anna. The writer of that piece quoted below probably >> had never tried all-fours. The difference between the pelvic >> dimensions in all-fours compared to seated position can be pretty >> spectacular. I owe a lot to those traditonal midwives in >> Guatemala, who taught the district midwife who hadn't learned >> about the all-fours position in her hospital-based training, who >> then taught me. My family physician mentor had told me that I >> should fracture the collarbone, but after my "seminar" in >> Guatemala, I didn't have to try that because all-fours worked so >> well. >> >> Some might be in EL's camp that I and others on this list are wild >> radicals to be attending home births, but I had to go there to >> escape the automatic forceps delivery. I have learned from >> obstetricians, and I have learned from illiterate midwives whose >> knowledge and skills are not even acknowledged by the >> International Confederation of Midwives and the World Health >> Organization. I got life-saving lessons from both and so can't >> value one above the other. I think I'm a moderate. >> >> Ina May Next message: Ina May Gaskin: "Re: Episiotomy question" Previous message: Bernard Cristalli: "Re: Placenta Accreta" In reply to: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: Episiotomy question" Next in thread: Meenan, Anna: "Re: Episiotomy question"

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