Re: Laparoscopic chicken
From: Richard Chudacoff (rchudacoff@mylinuxisp.com)
Mon Feb 4 15:53:05 2008
Ouch
R
-----Original Message-----
From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of art
fougner, md
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:50 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
Subject: Re: Laparoscopic chicken
Complaining about the half time show is just ... petty.
Art
At Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Richard Chudacoff wrote:
>
>That could be Richard Petty you were thinking about, or Kyle Petty? Tom
>played the half time show
>
>--
>Richard Chudacoff, MD, FACOG
>
> _____
>
>From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of ainsron
>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 1:54 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>Subject: Re: Laparoscopic chicken
>
>?Tom Petty? Didn't know they drove race cars in the Super Bowl. I assume
>you mean Tom Brady and you're right about the half time show, it was a bust
>as far as I'm concerned and the commercials weren't much better.
>
>Ronald E. Ainsworth, MD, FACOG
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Glen
Elrod
>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:06 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>Subject: Re: Laparoscopic chicken
>
>I think it must have been half time and I'm not a Tom Petty fan, plus
>without a wardrobe malfunction, what good is the half time show!
>
>Besides, I'm not used to being coherent during the game, the last three
>years its started at midnight for me.
>
>Glen
>
>>>----- Original Message ----
>From: "rchudacoff@mylinuxisp.com" <rchudacoff@mylinuxisp.com>
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net>
>Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2008 5:17:21 PM
>Subject: Re: Laparoscopic chicken
>
>no super bowl in Alaska Glen?
>
>Richard Chudacoff, MD, FACOG
> -sent from my Treo 650
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: Glen Elrod <dr99645@yahoo.com>
>Subj: Re: Laparoscopic chicken
>Date: Sun Feb 3, 2008 5:12 pm
>Size: 1K
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net>
>
>I just looked up to make sure I wasn't imagining things and it from this
>website at J&J it looks like the XCEL comes in bladeless, blunt and
dilating
>tip. Obviously, we are talking about the XCEL bladeless trocar.
>http://www.jnjgateway.com/home.jhtml?loc=USENG
><http://www.jnjgateway.com/home.jhtml?loc=USENG&page=viewContent&contentId0
>9008b9880c605a5&parentId 008b98801b4d2a>
>&page=viewContent&contentId 008b9880c605a5&parentId 008b98801b4d2a
>
>The Visiport looks like it belongs to Autosuture, a division of US Surgical
>according to this website.
>
>http://www.autosuture.com/Autosuture/pagebuilder.aspx?topicID=31737
><http://www.autosuture.com/Autosuture/pagebuilder.aspx?topicID=31737&breadc
r
>umbs=0:122497,131955:0,39752:0> &breadcrumbs=0:122497,131955:0,39752:0
>
>Glen
>
>>>----- Original Message ----
>From: Douglas Krell <dkrell@msn.com>
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net>
>Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2008 2:12:11 PM
>Subject: Re: Laparoscopic chicken
>
>.hmmessage P
>{
>margin:0px;padding:0px;}
>body.hmmessage
>{
>FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;}
>
>Both Excel and Visiport are Ethicon products.
>The Excel trocars have spring loaded blades.
>The Visiport trocars have the little plastic wings at the tip, and the
scope
>goes
>right inside of it so that you watch on monitor as the tip penetrates all
>the layers.
>
>I use the visiport all the time now.
>I can attest to the fact that if you have a piece of bowel adherent right
>under the umbilicus
>The visiport gives you a nice view of the bowel lumen.
>
>I agree with you Garry. It would take a major study powered to show the
>difference
>in injury rates. Perhaps you could study laparoscopies done on patients
>with previous
>midline incisions.
>
>Right now, I tend to prefer the Visiport, but if the scrub tech opens
Excels
>by mistake, I don't throw 'em all out.
>I usually open a Verres needle and proceed. Surgery is dangerous business,
>but if it's done for a
>
>--- message truncated ---
>
> _____
>
>Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo
><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evtQ438/*http:/www.yahoo.com/r/hs> your homepage.
>
--
art fougner, md
"May The Wings of Liberty Never Lose a Feather." - Jack Burton