Re: Caffeine-miscarriage link study
From: robert berg (robert.berg@nyu.edu)
Sun Jan 27 16:18:08 2008
Well, did they? (Typed as I fondly recall sniffing the freshly mimeographed
exam papers as they were being passed out.....)
On Jan 27, 2008 11:58 AM, Larry Glazerman <l.glazerman@rcn.com> wrote:
> This brings back an OLD story (true story). An ex partner of mine was
> having dinner with a pregnant friend and her husband (thankfully, not a
> patient of ours). My partner ordered a cup of coffee, and the pregnant
> friend was worried that the fumes would damage her fetus.
>
> Larry R. Glazerman, MD, FACOG
> St. Luke's Center for Advanced Gynecologic Care
> 250 Cetronia Road
> Suite 305
> Allentown PA 18104
> 484-223-3279
> 484-223-2830 FAX
> glazerl@slhn.org
>
> On Jan 27, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Gordon Goldman wrote:
>
> Not to mention the second-hand caffeine that pollutes the environment as
> the molecules evaporate into the air from those steaming cups of coffee. This
> will generate 'no caffeine' areas of restaurants and eventually ban the
> 'public use' of it in all buildings, etc. ad nauseam.
>
> Gordon
>
> On Jan 27, 2008, at 5:10 AM, art fougner, md wrote:
>
> Caffeine warning labels on coffee cups, ala beer bottles/cans?
>
> Art
>
> At Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Gordon Goldman wrote:
>
> David,
>
> I agree with you, except I think this will serve another purpose;
> fodder for the litigious at heart.
>
> The coffee vendors (Seattle, Starbuck's and the like) will be the
> target of litigation for not having adequately warned their female
> clientele of the 'deadly' consequences of caffeine ingestion.
>
> And of course, the physicians will be targeted also, unless it is
> documented in the record that you specifically warned against it,
> despite the paucity of hard fact. In Missouri, we have to have the
> patient sign a statement at the onset of prenatal care, warning them
> of alcohol, tobacco and drug use. Caffeine is next.
>
> --
> Gordon M. Goldman, M.D., FACOG
> Private Practice, St. Louis, Mo.
>
> On Jan 26, 2008, at 4:33 PM, David Priver wrote:
>
> Study linking caffeine, miscarriages flawed
>
> Regarding "Study reports link between caffeine use, miscarriages"
> (News,
> Jan. 21):
>
> In my view, as an OB/GYN, this is a dreadfully flawed study that will
> serve no purpose other to further frighten pregnant women about the
> growing volume of supposedly dangerous substances that they must
> avoid.
>
> First of all, it is hopelessly unreliable to question women, often
> months following a miscarriage, about what they did or did not consume
> while pregnant. Secondly, women who have the most "morning sickness"
> and, therefore, are the least likely to be consuming coffee (or nearly
> anything else), almost never miscarry, presumably as a result of a
> very
> high hormone level. This reflects an association, but clearly not a
> cause and effect relationship. Finally, it is well-established that
> miscarriage is, with very few exceptions, caused by pregnancies
> associated with chromosomal abnormalities, something that cannot
> possibly be affected by he consumption of caffeine.
>
> As the March of Dimes spokeswoman stated while explaining why that
> organization will now proceed to jump on this fear-inducing bandwagon,
> "Women do need good guidance." Indeed they do, but this study did not
> provide it.
>
> DAVID PRIVER
> San Diego
>
> --
> art fougner, md
> "May The Wings of Liberty Never Lose a Feather." - Jack Burton
>
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Robert E. Berg, MD, FACOG, FACS
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And this affects me, how?