Re: Caffeine-miscarriage link study
From: Joe (forcep@intercom.net)
Sun Jan 27 09:40:38 2008
And condoms? They do ruptured with unforeseen consequnces. Oh, I forgot
about informed consent with each use. Joe C
art fougner, md wrote:
> The makers of colas, Red Bull, Excedrin etc are in trouble.
>
> Art
>
> At Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Gordon Goldman wrote:
>
>>Not to mention the second-hand caffeine that pollutes the environment
>>as the molecules evaporate into the air from those steaming cups of
>>coffee.
>>This will generate 'no caffeine' areas of restaurants and eventually
>>ban the 'public use' of it in all buildings, etc. ad nauseam.
>>
>>Gordon
>>
>>On Jan 27, 2008, at 5:10 AM, art fougner, md wrote:
>>
>>>Caffeine warning labels on coffee cups, ala beer bottles/cans?
>>>
>>>Art
>>>
>>>At Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Gordon Goldman wrote:
>>>
>>>>David,
>>>>
>>>>I agree with you, except I think this will serve another purpose;
>>>>fodder for the litigious at heart.
>>>>
>>>>The coffee vendors (Seattle, Starbuck's and the like) will be the
>>>>target of litigation for not having adequately warned their female
>>>>clientele of the 'deadly' consequences of caffeine ingestion.
>>>>
>>>>And of course, the physicians will be targeted also, unless it is
>>>>documented in the record that you specifically warned against it,
>>>>despite the paucity of hard fact. In Missouri, we have to have the
>>>>patient sign a statement at the onset of prenatal care, warning them
>>>>of alcohol, tobacco and drug use. Caffeine is next.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Gordon M. Goldman, M.D., FACOG
>>>>Private Practice, St. Louis, Mo.
>>>>
>>>>On Jan 26, 2008, at 4:33 PM, David Priver wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Study linking caffeine, miscarriages flawed
>>>>>
>>>>>Regarding “Study reports link between caffeine use, miscarriages”
>>>>>(News,
>>>>>Jan. 21):
>>>>>
>>>>>In my view, as an OB/GYN, this is a dreadfully flawed study that
>>>>>will
>>>>>serve no purpose other to further frighten pregnant women about the
>>>>>growing volume of supposedly dangerous substances that they must
>>>>>avoid.
>>>>>
>>>>>First of all, it is hopelessly unreliable to question women, often
>>>>>months following a miscarriage, about what they did or did not
>>>>>consume
>>>>>while pregnant. Secondly, women who have the most “morning
>>>>>sickness”
>>>>>and, therefore, are the least likely to be consuming coffee (or
>>>>>nearly
>>>>>anything else), almost never miscarry, presumably as a result of a
>>>>>very
>>>>>high hormone level. This reflects an association, but clearly not a
>>>>>cause and effect relationship. Finally, it is well-established that
>>>>>miscarriage is, with very few exceptions, caused by pregnancies
>>>>>associated with chromosomal abnormalities, something that cannot
>>>>>possibly be affected by he consumption of caffeine.
>>>>>
>>>>>As the March of Dimes spokeswoman stated while explaining why that
>>>>>organization will now proceed to jump on this fear-inducing
>>>>>bandwagon,
>>>>>“Women do need good guidance.” Indeed they do, but this study did
>>>>>not
>>>>>provide it.
>>>>>
>>>>>DAVID PRIVER
>>>>>San Diego
>>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>art fougner, md
>>>"May The Wings of Liberty Never Lose a Feather." - Jack Burton
>
> --
> art fougner, md
> "May The Wings of Liberty Never Lose a Feather." - Jack Burton
>
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