Re: Caffeine-miscarriage link study
From: R. Daniel Braun (rd.braun@gmail.com)
Sun Jan 27 08:51:21 2008
Not to mention Jolt and Pepsi.
Dan
On Jan 27, 2008 10:34 AM, art fougner, md <evsono@pipeline.com> wrote:
> The makers of colas, Red Bull, Excedrin etc are in trouble.
>
> Art
>
> At Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Gordon Goldman wrote:
> >
> >Not to mention the second-hand caffeine that pollutes the environment
> >as the molecules evaporate into the air from those steaming cups of
> >coffee.
> >This will generate 'no caffeine' areas of restaurants and eventually
> >ban the 'public use' of it in all buildings, etc. ad nauseam.
> >
> >Gordon
> >
> >On Jan 27, 2008, at 5:10 AM, art fougner, md wrote:
> >
> >> Caffeine warning labels on coffee cups, ala beer bottles/cans?
> >>
> >> Art
> >>
> >> At Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Gordon Goldman wrote:
> >>>
> >>> David,
> >>>
> >>> I agree with you, except I think this will serve another purpose;
> >>> fodder for the litigious at heart.
> >>>
> >>> The coffee vendors (Seattle, Starbuck's and the like) will be the
> >>> target of litigation for not having adequately warned their female
> >>> clientele of the 'deadly' consequences of caffeine ingestion.
> >>>
> >>> And of course, the physicians will be targeted also, unless it is
> >>> documented in the record that you specifically warned against it,
> >>> despite the paucity of hard fact. In Missouri, we have to have the
> >>> patient sign a statement at the onset of prenatal care, warning them
> >>> of alcohol, tobacco and drug use. Caffeine is next.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Gordon M. Goldman, M.D., FACOG
> >>> Private Practice, St. Louis, Mo.
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 26, 2008, at 4:33 PM, David Priver wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Study linking caffeine, miscarriages flawed
> >>>>
> >>>> Regarding "Study reports link between caffeine use, miscarriages"
> >>>> (News,
> >>>> Jan. 21):
> >>>>
> >>>> In my view, as an OB/GYN, this is a dreadfully flawed study that
> >>>> will
> >>>> serve no purpose other to further frighten pregnant women about the
> >>>> growing volume of supposedly dangerous substances that they must
> >>>> avoid.
> >>>>
> >>>> First of all, it is hopelessly unreliable to question women, often
> >>>> months following a miscarriage, about what they did or did not
> >>>> consume
> >>>> while pregnant. Secondly, women who have the most "morning
> >>>> sickness"
> >>>> and, therefore, are the least likely to be consuming coffee (or
> >>>> nearly
> >>>> anything else), almost never miscarry, presumably as a result of a
> >>>> very
> >>>> high hormone level. This reflects an association, but clearly not a
> >>>> cause and effect relationship. Finally, it is well-established that
> >>>> miscarriage is, with very few exceptions, caused by pregnancies
> >>>> associated with chromosomal abnormalities, something that cannot
> >>>> possibly be affected by he consumption of caffeine.
> >>>>
> >>>> As the March of Dimes spokeswoman stated while explaining why that
> >>>> organization will now proceed to jump on this fear-inducing
> >>>> bandwagon,
> >>>> "Women do need good guidance." Indeed they do, but this study did
> >>>> not
> >>>> provide it.
> >>>>
> >>>> DAVID PRIVER
> >>>> San Diego
> >>>>
> >> --
> >> art fougner, md
> >> "May The Wings of Liberty Never Lose a Feather." - Jack Burton
>
> --
> art fougner, md
> "May The Wings of Liberty Never Lose a Feather." - Jack Burton
>
--
R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG(L) CMT
Professor Emeritus
Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynecology
Indiana U. School of Medicine
R. Daniel Braun
"Science without Religion is LAME; Religion without Science is BLIND"
Einstein 1941
