Re: Eating meat caused CPD was:Re Would you eat meat from cloned anim
From: westsidebirthservice@juno.com ("westsidebirthservice@juno.com")
Wed Jan 16 12:28:47 2008
And the WHO recently said that 15% is reasonable. What happened?
Louana
-- "R. Daniel Braun" <rd.braun@gmail.com> wrote:
When I was a resident, If the section rate got above 2.5%, we were raked over the coals and had to re-evaluate all the sections we had done in the last 6 months.
Dan
On Jan 16, 2008 12:21 PM, Ina May Gaskin < inamaygaskin@gmail.com> wrote:
Dan, would be the "fast track" version of evolution? (I'm remembering that the c-section rate when I was a new midwife was 5.5%.)
Ina May
On 16 Jan 2008, at 09:07, R. Daniel Braun wrote:
Or it could be the result of performing cesarean sections and saving the lives of children with small pelves so that they can then reproduce.
Dan
On Jan 16, 2008 8:03 AM, westsidebirthservice@juno.com < westsidebirthservice@juno.com> wrote:
Now, now, now--what do you think those pointy teeth in our heads are for anyway? Meat, meat! We are omnivores remember. I think CPD is a result of poor diets (especially seen in the depression years and, as el could tell us, third world countries) in childhood resulting in truly malformed pelvises (is that a word?) and now our big babies (in this country) could well be a result of the hormones (can anyone say human growth hormone boys and girls?) in the meat we eat.
Louana
-- johnprov@sympatico.ca (Dr. John Provatopoulos B.Sc. M.D.C.M. F.R.S.C.) wrote:
At Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Joanne Bulley, MD wrote:
>
>Yeah.
>
>I have no worries specifically about genetic modifications or cloned
>food: the much much bigger impact on our health and the environment and
>all that is the industrialization of the food industry here in the US
>(and exporetd elsewhere) - the overcrowded feed lots - feeding the
>animals things they were not meant to digest - and that food and the
>crowding conditions cause the need for huge amounts of antibiotics to be
>fed to the animals ... etc etc
>
>Joanne
>
We eat way to much meat. I am a big fan of the Discovery Chanell, well
one of the theories why our Human brains got so big is that it happened =
when we got a taste for meat, the energy and protien available in meat
makes all other food sources look like well chicken feed. Walking
upright as bipeds narrowed the pelvis but early Australopithecus Momys
had no problem pushing out baby, its only when our distant cousins got a
taste for meat that cephalopelvic-disproportion reared its ugly head. I
thought about this as ate my ten onzes of prime rib on New years eve
which I am not sure I have finished digesting.
P.S. for all the buding lawyers doesn't this sound like a great class
action.
--
Take care, John
--
R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG(L) CMT
Professor Emeritus
Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynecology
Indiana U. School of Medicine
R. Daniel Braun
"Science without Religion is LAME; Religion without Science is BLIND"
Einstein 1941
--
R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG(L) CMT
Professor Emeritus
Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynecology
Indiana U. School of Medicine
R. Daniel Braun
"Science without Religion is LAME; Religion without Science is BLIND"
Einstein 1941
And the WHO recently said that 15% is reasonable. What happened?
Louana
-- "R. Daniel Braun" <rd.braun@gmail.com> wrote:
When I was a resident, If the section rate got above 2.5%, we were raked over the coals and had to re-evaluate all the sections we had done in the last 6 months.
Dan
On Jan 16, 2008 12:21 PM, Ina May Gaskin <
inamaygaskin@gmail.com> wrote:
Dan, would be the "fast track" version of evolution? (I'm remembering that the c-section rate when I was a new midwife was 5.5%.)
Ina May
On 16 Jan 2008, at 09:07, R. Daniel Braun wrote:
Or it could be the result of performing cesarean sections and saving the lives of children with small pelves so that they can then reproduce.
Dan
On Jan 16, 2008 8:03 AM,
westsidebirthservice@juno.com <
westsidebirthservice@juno.com> wrote:
Now, now, now--what do you think those pointy teeth in our heads are for anyway? Meat, meat! We are omnivores remember. I think CPD is a result of poor diets (especially seen in the depression years and, as el could tell us, third world countries) in childhood resulting in truly malformed pelvises (is that a word?) and now our big babies (in this country) could well be a result of the hormones (can anyone say human growth hormone boys and girls?) in the meat we eat.
Louana
--
johnprov@sympatico.ca (Dr. John Provatopoulos B.Sc. M.D.C.M. F.R.S.C.) wrote:
At Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Joanne Bulley, MD wrote:
>
>Yeah.
>
>I have no worries specifically about genetic modifications or cloned
>food: the much much bigger impact on our health and the environment and
>all that is the industrialization of the food industry here in the US
>(and exporetd elsewhere) - the overcrowded feed lots - feeding the
>animals things they were not meant to digest - and that food and the
>crowding conditions cause the need for huge amounts of antibiotics to be
>fed to the animals ... etc etc
>
>Joanne
>
We eat way to much meat. I am a big fan of the Discovery Chanell, well
one of the theories why our Human brains got so big is that it happened
when we got a taste for meat, the energy and protien available in meat
makes all other food sources look like well chicken feed. Walking
upright as bipeds narrowed the pelvis but early Australopithecus Momys
had no problem pushing out baby, its only when our distant cousins got a
taste for meat that cephalopelvic-disproportion reared its ugly head. I
thought about this as ate my ten onzes of prime rib on New years eve
which I am not sure I have finished digesting.
P.S. for all the buding lawyers doesn't this sound like a great class
action.
--
Take care, John
--
R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG(L) CMT
Professor Emeritus
Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynecology
Indiana U. School of Medicine
R. Daniel Braun
"Science without Religion is LAME; Religion without Science is BLIND"
Einstein 1941
sp;FACOG(L) CMT
Professor Emeritus
Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynecology
Indiana U. School of Medicine
R. Daniel Braun
"Science without Religion is LAME; Religion without Science is BLIND"
Einstein 1941
