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Re: More posterior than you think From: R. Daniel Braun (rd.braun@gmail.com) Sat Jan 5 18:50:19 2008 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: aditi desai: "Re: More posterior than you think" Previous message: Karen Lee: "Re: GYN: Female Genital Mutilation" In reply to: Andrew Folley: "Re: More posterior than you think" Reply: Dr. John Provatopoulos B.Sc. M.D.C.M. F.R.S.C.: "Re: More posterior than you think" Andrew, would you please check the material put out by Aldo Vacca, the inventor of the Kiwi. He has multiple papers in the literature and has even written a poem "It's more posterior than you think!". I gave you the URL to an excerpt from that poem in the first response that I made referring to the Kiwi. Dan On Jan 5, 2008 7:08 PM, Andrew Folley <agfolley@hotmail.com> wrote: > Respectfully disagree. OP babies come out with the moulding and caput > pointing more "forward". Put the vacuum on the presenting area of the > fetal head. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 10:29:51 -0600 > ------------------------------ > From: rd.braun@gmail.com > ------------------------------ > To: ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net > Subject: Re: More posterior than you think > > It's MORE posterior than you think. The cup needs to be placed on the > flexion point which may frequently be so far posterior , the cup will be > parallel to the floor and you need to pull almost straight down. > > Dan > > On Jan 3, 2008 10:13 PM, Garry E. Siegel, M.D. <garrys@mindspring.com> > wrote: > > I have not been impressed with using a vacuum (Kiwi Omni) with OP > presentations. > > Thoughts? > > Garry > > -- > Garry E. Siegel, M.D. > Private Practice > Roswell, GA > > -- > R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG(L) CMT > Professor Emeritus > Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynecology > Indiana U. School of Medicine > > R. Daniel Braun > > "Science without Religion is LAME; Religion without Science is > BLIND" > Einstein 1941 > -- R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG(L) CMT Professor Emeritus Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynecology Indiana U. School of Medicine R. Daniel Braun "Science without Religion is LAME; Religion without Science is BLIND" Einstein 1941 Next message: aditi desai: "Re: More posterior than you think" Previous message: Karen Lee: "Re: GYN: Female Genital Mutilation" In reply to: Andrew Folley: "Re: More posterior than you think" Reply: Dr. John Provatopoulos B.Sc. M.D.C.M. F.R.S.C.: "Re: More posterior than you think"

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