Re: ASC-US

From: Dr. John Provatopoulos B.Sc. M.D.C.M. F.R.S.C. (johnprov@sympatico.ca)
Sun Sep 2 06:21:56 2007


At Sat, 1 Sep 2007, R. Berg wrote: >
>Unfortunately, today, I had just the reverse problem.
>
>5/07 pap, ASCUS, HR HPV *negative*
>
>Pt comes in 3 months later, c/o vague pelvic pain x 2 weeks. Exam
>completely unremarkable. She then asks for a repeat pap, based on the
>letter I sent her, suggesting that her slightly abnormal pap, although not
>concerning for dysplasia, should be followed up in 6 months.
>
>I declined to perform one, suggesting to her that a repeat in *6* months is
>probably overdoing it.
>
>She left the office (this is 4 days ago). Today, she calls me, *irate*, and
>tells me that it is her "legal right" and that it is my "legal obligation"
>to perform a repeat pap smear; furthermore, since she has celiac disease and
>that this condition is associated with lymphoma, and that her mother had an
>ovary removed for a nonmalignant condition she *needs* a repeat pap smear
>now, given that it is only 3 months less than the time I suggested for her
>to repeat the smear (I guess it's not really a "smear" anymore, more of a
>"stir" or "swish." Pap Swish doesn't really sound as clinical, I suppose).
>Again, I declined. She then informed me that her only recourse would be to
>contact her insurance company to demand that I repeat it. I told her that
>she can do what she feels necessary, but that her insurance company would
>likely agree with me, and, in any event, no matter what they said, I would
>not be repeating the test, as I do not feel that it is medically indicated.
>
>So should I have:
>
>1) repeated the smear, coding 795.01, ASC-US on pap, just because she wanted
>one, or
>
>2) repeated the smear, coding 300.02, generalized anxiety disorder or 300.7,
>hypochondriasis, or
>
>3) stuck to (and keep sticking to) my guns?
>
>____________________________________________________________________________
>Robert E. Berg, MD
>____________________________________________________________________________
>
>--
>____________________________________________________________________________

No brainer for me, I would repeat the PAP and not even bill my fee for >____________________________________________________________________________
it; then I would let her argue with the insurance company about the lab fee's. I can't see why she should not have a repeat PAP if she is willing to pay for it.

--
                                 Take care, John




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