Re: Insurance (long)

From: Rafael Haciski (haciski@earthlink.net)
Sat Sep 1 19:37:32 2007


So if a pt comes in for an annual/PAP you will do the PAP, discuss some preventive issues like breast exams, schedule mammogram,. suggest/refer for colonoscopy. And that's it.

But if she had a DEXA two months ago and has osteopenia/osteoporosis then you reschedule her to talk about those issues? And she also admits to SUI at the time - do you say nothing about this and reschedule her?

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Rafael Haciski  MD FACOG
Anchor Health Centers GYN
800 Goodlette Rd #360
239-643-8780 office
239-571-0292 cell
Naples, FL.

On Sep 1, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Garry E. Siegel, M.D. wrote:

> FWIW, here's what we TRY to do. > > When patients call for an appointment, sometimes they will say to the > receptionist/scheduler: > > "I need my pap and I'm having X problem (pain, AUB, menopausal > symptoms, > etc.)." At this point, they are told to make two appointments--usually > the problem one soon, and the pap later. It usually goes over > fine, as > we say that insurance doesn't allow us to do 2 things at one > visit. We > don't get any more detailed than that. > > When they come in, sometimes they'll ask the medical assistant and/or > me--"Can't we just do it all today?" Sometimes, there are > circumstances > that make that best (they live a long way away, they are self-pay, > there > are compelling medical reasons, or they just complain too much and too > loudly), but usually it is accepted. I tell them directly--"When > you go > to the grocery store and buy bread and milk, you pay for both. Your > annual examination is bread, and your menopausal symptoms are milk, > and > many insurers won't pay for both on one day, and we can't call every > insurer for every patient. We're sorry but we need to get paid for > what > we do and keep the lights on." Most accept it. > > Another scenario is when people come in for an annual, and, by the > way, > I have AUB or I want my IUD out. I generally tell them the same > story, > and they generally are accepting of it. > > I know that the CPT rules allow various modifiers to allow two > services > on one visit, but our experience is that we aren't paid uniformly, > have > to appeal, get denied, etc. Maybe we are doing it incorrectly, but > this > solution is pretty simple and seems to work for us. Of course, we > realize that it is NOT convenient for the patients, but my partner > and I > feel we have no choice but to maximize our reimbursement given today's > climate. > > Garry > > -- > Garry E. Siegel, M.D. > Private Practice > Roswell, GA





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